Trigger words: strictly controlled
Indicator sentences: And what we can see is that Mr Williamson 's interpretation of strictly controlled means not normally be permitted . And that is not strict control that is not normally be permitted .
Negotiation parts: Strictly controlled should mean consented after the most careful deliberation and under the most carefully contrived er conditions . North Yorkshire 's interpretation I repeat is not strictly controlled means not normally be permitted . Erm the second point I 'd like to make is er we danced round this phrase presumption this morning , I 've tried to avoid using it because its its it gets all sorts of er connotations going . I read in the Planning Press that the Newbury District Council managed to browbeat the the Department of Environment into accepting the phrase in their in a local plan , so perhaps presumptions are er the word presumption may or may not be acceptable , but then to extend it into saying well you ca n't even say , not normally be acceptable , and , not normally be er agreeable , for any sort of policy er means that strategic policies or general policy approaches are simply ruled out ri right across the board . And I 'm sure that 's not really er acceptable . And if you take into account that the words , A general presumption against , were common phraseology in policies in the nineteen eighties and we now use the er [UNCLEAR] play against presumption we now have to use the phrase , Will not normally be permitted . Terry Heselton Sel Selby District . Erm it seems it seems to me that wha what 's crucial here is the er the spirit behind the policy or or rather the the way in which it 's going to be interpreted . Frank Broughton Ministry of Agriculture . I think it was Mr Heselton raised the er issue earlier of the wording in the explanatory memorandum and er [UNCLEAR] would certainly regard that as being very important in the interpretation of this policy . Er being an agriculturalist rather than a planner I tend to get a bit confused by higher planning semantics of the difference between strict control and presumption against not normally . Er so what I did was something a bit simpler than that I just went through the memorandum and and ticked off what I regarded as restrictive statements as against positive ones . Er and I think I came up with six negatives and and one very feeble positive . And er if I just run through them in in the amended version as I understand it . Paragraph one talks about generally preventing inappropriate development . Paragraph two er development generally should be the exception rather than the rule er building in the open countryside should be strictly controlled . Paragraph three , discourage most forms of development . Paragraph four , a limited number of exceptions and paragraph seven , promotion of a restrictive approach to development . Now to counteract that the only positive one I could find was , while accepting that some development in the open countryside may prove to be necessary . Now it seemed to me that was n't a very erm reasonable balance and er comparing that with the with the Secretary of State 's recent pronouncements where he talks about local planning authorities needing to breathe fresh life into the countryside through their development plans and I want local planning authorities in rural areas to give the need to diversify the rural economy as much priority priority in their thinking as protecting the countryside and the two go hand in hand , and comparing those two er points I I would I would put to North Yorkshire the question , Do they think that the explanatory memorandum is is consistent with that er policy statement from the Secretary of State ? David Collier National Farms Union . I share the reservations of erm Mr Broughton about the the tone of the policy erm and as Professor Lock was concerned about the interpretation of strictly controlled , erm we are too . Erm I think if someone er told me I need to control my car whilst driving I would have erm one hand on the steering wheel . If somebody told me to strictly control the car I would put both hands on the steering wheel but not necessarily both feet on the er brake pedal . Erm I certainly er would agree that the starting point would be erm a policy which talks of development being permitted in certain circumstances erm and that the county council wishes to support development which benefits the rural economy erm subject to satisfying certain criteria . And I think that to a large extent erm an alternative wording that that we 've been working on would erm meet those concerns . Erm I 'll be happy to distribute copies but perhaps I could run through that draft quickly now erm and go through what I would say are the advantages . The alternative we suggest is , Development in the open countryside outside the national parks , areas of outstanding natural beauty , areas that heritage coast and greenbelt , will be strictly controlled . Proposals intended to benefit the rural economy will normally be supported provided that they would not unacceptably detract from the character and appearance and general amenity of the surrounding area . And you will have noted that er much of the wording in that er er latter sentence is taken from the the latest draft of the county council 's suggested policy . I would say that the five advantages of our alternative draft is that er it makes it clear that the policy applies to land outside the national parks and so forth but with less repetition than the proposal put forward by the county council . Erm it 's secondly more positive in its tone than that erm presently before us . Thirdly that there is no requirement to demonstrate a need to locate development in open countryside erm and we 've been reminded this morning that erm one of the erm flaws in the policy put forward back in nineteen seventy nine or eighty erm appears to be that it erm required , certainly in the explanatory memorandum , that the development be erm essential erm to er essentially have a countryside location . Erm the fourth advantage I would say is that it focuses on the balance between the need to promote rural enterprise and the need to protect the countryside . Erm and finally , erm in an effort to make it er acceptable , wherever possible it makes use of the wording already agreed between the county council and interested parties .