Dialogue ID: t3_2fo07m

Corpus: Winning Arguments (ChangeMyView) Corpus

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WMN sequences (3):

WMN ID: t3_2fo07m_t1_ckb4dmq--TIO1

Context: Online interaction

WMN Type: WMN: non-understanding

WMN Meaning: situated meaning

Trigger words: controlling ice control over ice

Indicator sentences: So we may need to revisit what you mean by control over ice and control over fire. It seems that what you are referring to as "control over ice" is really control over water and the ability to reduce it's temperature and freeze it at will, which is much more utilitarian than just being able to move around pieces of ice (solid state water) without changing water (liquid state water). Similarly, what do you mean by fire? Does this include just burning of carbon based material? Or does it include nuclear fire as well, in which case any kind of nuclear fusion/fission is reasonable.

Negotiation parts: Fire means being able to burn or ignite the oxygen in the air or raise the temperature of a substance including yourself and freezing would be being able to lower the temperature of an object or something around you I would say imagine Idk if you have watched FMA or fairy tail but Roy mustangs type of alchemy where he superheats the air and oxygen around him or an object and creates flames while normally this I just a poof thing the pyromancer can do this is a stream of fire the cyromancer would be like Gray from Fairy tail able to freeze the oxygen or substances around him and create stuff from it. And both extremes are able so you would be able to create nuclear flames while the cyromancer can reach points such as absolute zero [STA-CITE]>Fire means being able to burn or ignite the oxygen in the air or raise the temperature of a substance including yourself [END-CITE]This is what I'm talking about, it depends on how you define "control of fire" vs "control of ice" How do you define control ? Exactly my point, you're the OP so you get to define it, depending on how you define it or don't, that directs the entire conversation I just assumed everyone had the same concept if control ?_? Being OP has a lot of responsibilities

WMN ID: t3_2fo07m_t1_ckb4dmq--TIO2

Context: Online interaction

WMN Type: WMN: non-understanding

WMN Meaning: situated meaning

Trigger words: controlling fire control fire

Indicator sentences: So we may need to revisit what you mean by control over ice and control over fire. It seems that what you are referring to as "control over ice" is really control over water and the ability to reduce it's temperature and freeze it at will, which is much more utilitarian than just being able to move around pieces of ice (solid state water) without changing water (liquid state water). Similarly, what do you mean by fire? Does this include just burning of carbon based material? Or does it include nuclear fire as well, in which case any kind of nuclear fusion/fission is reasonable.

Negotiation parts: Fire means being able to burn or ignite the oxygen in the air or raise the temperature of a substance including yourself and freezing would be being able to lower the temperature of an object or something around you I would say imagine Idk if you have watched FMA or fairy tail but Roy mustangs type of alchemy where he superheats the air and oxygen around him or an object and creates flames while normally this I just a poof thing the pyromancer can do this is a stream of fire the cyromancer would be like Gray from Fairy tail able to freeze the oxygen or substances around him and create stuff from it. And both extremes are able so you would be able to create nuclear flames while the cyromancer can reach points such as absolute zero [STA-CITE]>Fire means being able to burn or ignite the oxygen in the air or raise the temperature of a substance including yourself [END-CITE]This is what I'm talking about, it depends on how you define "control of fire" vs "control of ice" How do you define control ? Exactly my point, you're the OP so you get to define it, depending on how you define it or don't, that directs the entire conversation I just assumed everyone had the same concept if control ?_? Being OP has a lot of responsibilities

WMN ID: t3_2fo07m_t1_ckb4dmq--TIO3

Context: Online interaction

WMN Type: Non-pursued

WMN Meaning: no WMN

Trigger words: control (2)

Indicator sentences: How do you define control ?