Trigger words: Intelligence intelligence (3)
Indicator sentences: Intelligence is hard to define and describe even by neurologists and reducing that complexity down to one number is incredibly challenging if not impossible.
Negotiation parts: Firstly, I mentioned that. ("for want of better measure of intelligence") I would love a better measure of intelligence. [Some theorize that intelligence can be defined in categories, too...](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_multiple_intelligences) So, maybe a complex way to combine them. Like a total of all of them. Idc. Theories of multiple intelligences are taken care of by IQ itself, read up on the g factor. Intelligence can never be measured, the concept isn't nearly robust enough. Separating intelligence into categories *is* a far better way to go about it, but by it's very nature implies you cannot sum them. A brilliant mathematician make suck in all other areas such as music ability, linguistic skills, etc. making them look like a retard compared to a guy who is okay at math but also descent in those other categories. The point is intelligence is too complicated for us to try to breed certain kinds of it. It is a complex ploygenic trait we still don't fully understand. It is also downright silly to consider since, as we know it isn't really feasible to control the populations genitals in any ethical manner. [STA-CITE]>I only used the IQ test in my example because so far it is (seemingly) the most available measure of intelligence [END-CITE] This is not a good reason to use anything. I know it sucks but I have nothing better does not justify using a sucky measurement. Getting op to define intelligence probably boils down to: People I agree with are intelligent. People I disagree with are dumb. Intelligence and eugenics snobs always think this way.
Trigger words: limit offspring
Indicator sentences: By limiting offspring, I assume you mean sterilization.
Negotiation parts: Not really, I meant more like laws that people follow really closely to the best of their ability.
Trigger words: Eugenics
Indicator sentences: That's not a controversial view at all, and it's definitely not what eugenics means.
Negotiation parts: "What eugenics means" -Oops, the definition says "practice" as well as "belief" Well I believe in it at least. I'm not saying that " it would be nice if the people with the best genes wanted to have the most children." (though I agree with that) I'm saying that a proposed law, if implemented correctly, that limits reproduction based on actual intelligence, would be a good thing. Some people think eugenics is "bad terrible hitler"... Not so. Eugenics is totally controversial.
Trigger words: Intelligence intelligence (3)
Indicator sentences: What is intelligence? People throw this word like there is some truth in it? Can you define intelligence for me?
Trigger words: intelligent
Indicator sentences: What is intelligence? Is a great painter who is poor at math and science not intelligent? I know many people who are conventionally smart but lack social skills and can't do art for shit.
Negotiation parts: Too your other point: consider intelligence the potential for generating ideas beneficial to man. "the potential for generating ideas beneficial to man.", will be less useful compared to ruthlessness and strength if we find ourselves in an apocalyptic situation.
Trigger words: covered
Indicator sentences: Not sure what that means. If you mean 'refuted', then I'm going to have to admit that I'm not going to go around compiling your argument.
Negotiation parts: No it does not mean refuted. It means I discussed everything you did throughout the rest of the thread already. I didn't talk about the polygenic inheritance of intelligence in the first post. I did mention it few times down the thread.