Dialogue ID: t3_2zfhj9

Corpus: Winning Arguments (ChangeMyView) Corpus

URL: https://convokit.cornell.edu/documentation/winning.html

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WMN sequences (3):

WMN ID: t3_2zfhj9_t1_cpifqxb

Context: Online interaction

WMN Type: Other kinds of clarification requests

WMN Meaning: no WMN

Indicator sentences: Could you explain your current understanding of what it means when a trans person says they want to be "treated like a man?" As in, exactly what that would entail.

WMN ID: t3_2zfhj9_t1_cpifsof

Context: Online interaction

WMN Type: WMN: disagreement

WMN Meaning: potential meaning

Trigger words: gender (3) sex

Indicator sentences: I'm not the biggest expert on this, but I think you're confusing the difference between sex and gender.

Negotiation parts: Sex refers to the biological and physiological characteristics that define men and women (ie. genitalia). Gender refers to the socially-constructed roles, behaviors and attributes associated with men and women (ie. women wear dresses, speak in a higher voice, have longer hair, men have shorter hair, participate in "masculine" activities etc). One way to think of it is a difference in sex is "male and female" and a difference in gender is "masculine and feminine." There are intersex people who are born in between the two poles of sex, but in general this is the difference. Basically the idea is that it's a spectrum. This is more of a description of gender roles in society, rather than gender identity. Which is very much a real, not societally-constructed thing as well. Your examples don't really line up with your description either - for example, the idea that women speak with higher voices isn't a socially-constructed role. It's not a universal definition, but the WHO differentiates between sex and gender identity, as does much of academia. Also, if roles define identity, I'm not sure what the difference is? [STA-CITE]> for example, the idea that women speak with higher voices isn't a socially-constructed role. [END-CITE]Tone of voice is absolutely [socially conditioned](https://books.google.com/books?id=-8z3CUhv8pYC&pg=PA413&lpg=PA413&dq=tone+of+voice+gender&source=bl&ots=mRJ6bJGkWf&sig=IpTtdlj8UogFOE1twGVsEcCkGlc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MgIJVfuhI5P9oQT-r4DoCw&ved=0CFEQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=tone%20of%20voice%20gender&f=false). Socially-constructed doesn't mean it's independent of biology. Linguists have known about this for years.

WMN ID: t3_2zfhj9_t1_cpih5s4

Context: Online interaction

WMN Type: Other kinds of clarification requests

WMN Meaning: no WMN

Indicator sentences: Can you explain further what you mean here? Are you saying that being misgendered doesn't exist, or that dysphoria doesn't exist?