Dialogue ID: t3_35edub

Corpus: Winning Arguments (ChangeMyView) Corpus

URL: https://convokit.cornell.edu/documentation/winning.html

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WMN sequences (5):

WMN ID: t3_35edub_t1_cr3mhui

Context: Online interaction

WMN Type: WMN: disagreement

WMN Meaning: both

Trigger words: colors (4) color (4)

Indicator sentences: The whole point of communication is to get a point across. This means that different communities define things differently in a way that suits their own needs. When artists talk about a painting needing more colour, other artists will intuitively know that this means add colours that are not black or white.

Negotiation parts: If they all assumed "colour" included black and white that conversation would be way more confusing for everyone involved. If your day to day life involves talking about colour all the time, you should have an established definition of what counts as a colour so everyone's on the same page. At the end of the day it doesn't matter, it's just to ensure proper communication. So when they say things like that, it's just an arbitrary distinction that has been made for their sake. Not sure if I've changed your view, but maybe I've atleast shown you why they would do that, and why it's okay to do that So you're saying that artists' 'colour' is everyone else's 'hue' or kinda like the saturation setting in Photoshop? Err maybe? Can't say I'm familiar enough with photoshop to say

WMN ID: t3_35edub_t1_cr3mqmr

Context: Online interaction

WMN Type: Other kinds of clarification requests

WMN Meaning: no WMN

Indicator sentences: I think you *might* be on to something here, but I'm not sure what you mean. Are red green and blue not also values in this context?

WMN ID: t3_35edub_t1_cr3n97f

Context: Online interaction

WMN Type: Non-pursued

WMN Meaning: no WMN

Trigger words: colors

Indicator sentences: But white is the opposite. White is the perception of a mixture of colors. If your definition of color is the perception of the light spectrum, then wouldn't that make white a color? If anything, it's the ultimate color.

WMN ID: t3_35edub_t1_cr3nasd

Context: Online interaction

WMN Type: WMN: non-understanding

WMN Meaning: situated meaning

Trigger words: equally

Indicator sentences: Hmm... what do you mean by absorbing everything equally? That it will absorb the same percentage of each frequency?

Negotiation parts: Yes.

WMN ID: t3_35edub_t1_cr3uydw

Context: Online interaction

WMN Type: Non-pursued

WMN Meaning: no WMN

Trigger words: colors (4) color (4)

Indicator sentences: It depends upon your definition of color.

Negotiation parts: If you define color as a wavelength of light, then black, white, and magenta are not colors. If you define it as the brain's interpretation of what wavelengths it is and is not receiving through the eyes, then black, white, and magenta are as much colors and green and yellow.