Trigger words: God (2)
Indicator sentences: You have defined "God" as the force that caused the Big Bang. Also, its not "God" as we traditionally know it, it could be two molecules making contact with each other. How do you want people to argue against your personal definition?
Negotiation parts: Edited post to clarify that I believe the entity to be conscious and intentional in its insertion into our universe and subsequent cause of the Big Bang and our existence. This is a very good point and has been raised elsewhere. I'm going to edit my post to clarify this fact. I do believe it to be a conscious entity and not just a force, or that was my original assumption in making this post. Edited to award ∆ for disproving my initial assumption in that I had too broadly defined the "entity" as a force.
Trigger words: God (2)
Indicator sentences: If you define "God" widely enough, your view will be true by (your) definition.
Negotiation parts: Edited post to clarify that I believe the entity to be conscious and intentional in its insertion into our universe and subsequent cause of the Big Bang and our existence. If you consider God to be "an entity or energy beyond our comprehension" and science says "we can't explain what was before the Big Bang or how it got there", then science is telling you that "before the big bang, whatever there was, is beyond our comprehension". So I guess the clarifying question here would be: Is there any way to change your view, or is it absolutely true based upon the definitions you're using? If so, then this will simply be a debate of semantics. This has been raised elsewhere and is a valid point. I'm going to edit my post to clarify this fact. I do believe it to be a conscious entity and not just a force, or that was my original assumption in making this post. Edited to award ∆ for disproving my initial assumption in that I had too broadly defined the "entity" as a force.
Trigger words: conscious entity force (2)
Indicator sentences: Can you define the difference between a conscious entity and a force? A force doesn't really exclude directed action. A human can affect a force, and a human is certainly a conscious entity.
Indicator sentences: What do you mean? All you really have is that anything sprung up at all. What makes an "intentional" universe any different from an "unintentional" one? Are you claiming life is impossible in an unintentional universe? Unlikely? I just need some clarification before I continue.
Trigger words: consciousness
Indicator sentences: Unless you have some very specific, technical and unusual definition of "consciousness" in mind here, I don't think this is true.
Negotiation parts: Consciousness is a subjective phenomenon, and science can, per definition, only concern itself with that which is objectively observable.