[1169]
Hi. /
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[1176]
Hi, /{F um, } okay /[ [ what, + {D now, } {F uh, } what ] particularly, + particularly what ] kind of music do you like? /
[1169]
{D Well, } I mostly listen to popular music. /I, {F uh, } listen to it all the time [ in, + in ] my car, /{C so, } [ I, + I ] tend to be one of those people who switches stations a lot because I don't like commercials. /{C But, }
[1176]
Yeah. /
[1169]
{F uh, } I find myself listening to popular music, /{C and, } {F uh, } quite honestly, I, I have some little children /{C and } I, unfortunately, found myself listening to a lot of nursery rhyme music here lately, /{C but } that's not by my choice. /
[1176]
{F Oh, } really. /
[1169]
How about you? /
[1176]
{D Well, } {F um, }
[1169]
Lucky you. /
[1176]
[ [ I, + I do, ] + I do ] listen to a lot of, - /{D you know, } [ I do, + I switch ] the stations a lot because I don't have a cassette player in my car. /
[1169]
{F Um, } {F um. } Uh-huh. /
[1176]
{F Uh, } {F uh, } however, [ [ I, + I do, ] + I do ] like a lot of different forms of music /{C so } I switch quite often. /{F Um, } I think I like, - /[ I, + I'm ] really particular about the type of music that I listen to. /
[1169]
Uh-huh. /
[1176]
{C But, } the, {F uh, } - /there's such a wide selection, /[ I think I like a lot, + I like a little bit of a lot of ] different types of music. /{D You know, } [ [ I, + I, ] + I ] like music [ that is, + that I feel ] - /if it is performed correctly or if it's done right, or if the version is done right, I like it
[1169]
Yeah. /
[1176]
{C but, } [ if, + if ] it's not, then I won't. /[ I, + I ] really don't, -/
[1169]
How do you feel about rap music? /
[1176]
Rap. /
[1169]
It seems to be so popular these days. /
[1176]
Yeah. /{D Well, } [ I, + I ] don't really have anything against rap music. /I, - /the one thing I do object to about rap music [ is, + is ] when it becomes militant,
[1169]
Uh-huh. /
[1176]
or, if it's, {F uh, } violence oriented. /
[1169]
Right. /
[1176]
[ I, + I ] have strong objections to that. /{F Um, } {D actually } I listen to, - /one time I remember, this was back when, even, {F uh, } - /I would say about ten or fifteen years ago I, -/
[1169]
When it was really just starting. /
[1176]
Yeah, /right /when it was just starting,
[1169]
Yeah. /
[1176]
I heard what was called talking blues,
[1169]
Uh-huh. /
[1176]
which actually is rap. /
[1169]
Uh-huh. /
[1176]
{C And, } {F uh, } it was about, - /[ [ the, + the piece of music, ] + the piece of music ] was [ about, + I think about ] forty or fifty years old. /{C And, } it was incredible, {E I mean, } the parallel, {D you know, } between it and rap. /
[1169]
Right. /
[1176]
{C And, } {F um, } [ you, + you ] listen a lot, - /[ if you, + if you ] hear a lot of old gospel, {F uh, } {F uh, } especially {D well, } the black gospel. /{D You know, } [ you will, + {D you know, } you can ] really pick it up. {E I mean, } /
[1169]
Yeah, /you really. - /It seemed to be influenced by a lot of different music. /A lot of times you'll hear songs that {D you know, } they're not original,
[1176]
Yeah. /
[1169]
but have been put to a rap kind of a rhythm. /{C And, } {F uh, } [ sounds, + it sounds ] so much different /{C and } yet, [ I, + I ] have a much younger sister who listens to a lot of rap music /{C and, } {F uh, } she thinks its pretty funny how often I know all of the words to songs that she's listening to, /{C and } yet,
[1176]
Yeah. /
[1169]
she thought they were brand new,
[1176]
Yeah. /
[1169]
original pieces. /
[1176]
[ [ [ they, + they do, ] + they do copy versions, ] + they do cover versions ] [ of, + of, ] {D you know, } {D like } standards, I guess you could call it. /
[1169]
That's right. /
[1176]
[1169]
No. /
[1176]
the credit that is really due to them. /
[1169]
Yeah, /I guess there was even [ a, + a ] bit of ruckus caused by the M C Hammer, who's really, {D you know, } /
[1176]
Yeah. /
[1169]
seems to be the hot one [ of, + of ] today. /He used, {F um, } WILD THING. /Do you remember [ that, + that ] song. /
[1176]
Yeah. /
[1169]
he used, {F um, } - /I can't remember who the artist was on that. /
[1176]
Jimi Hendrix was the original. /
[1169]
Who? /
[1176]
Jimi Hendrix was the original. /He wrote
[1169]
Was it, - /{D well, } [ ma-, + maybe ] it wasn't that one. /{C Because, } [ it was a living, + it was a living ] person that [ I'm, + I'm ] thinking of [ that, +
[1176]
Okay. /
[1169]
{F um, } that ] said, "You know, hey that, those are my words." /{C And, } {F uh, } I guess that [ they, + [ because + ] they ] hadn't originally gotten, {F um, } permission,
[1176]
Uh-huh. /
[1169]
from him to use it. /{C And, } [ he, + he ] since then [ has, + has ] amended that, and paid them his royalties every time [ the, + the ] song goes on /{C but, } -/
[1176]
Yeah. /I don't know /[ it may have, + it may have ] been somebody else, because [ I think, + I think ] that even Jimi Hendrix did it, /I think that was a cov-, - /{D you know, } come to think of it, I think that was a cover version of, {D like } a John Lee Hooker song, or something, /
[1169]
Maybe so. /[ I, +
[1176]
{E I mean } it was just like, - /it was really old. /
[1169]
I, ] can't think. /
[1176]
{E I mean } [ I, + I, ] - /[ there are a lot, + there are so many ] different songs, /{E I mean } {D like } the whole thing about cover versions a lot of times. {E I mean } I've heard some songs [ that, + that ] I just thought were horrendous cover versions of, - /I'm like, {D you know, } [ I, + I ] don't want to listen to this.
[1169]
Yeah. /
[1176]
[1169]
Right. /They destroyed it. /
[1176]
[1169]
{F Oh, } yeah! /
[1176]
{C and, then } the cover version, [ I think, + {E I mean, } I thought, ] [ was absolutely, + it was pitiful. ] /
[1169]
[ I, + I ] remember seeing the video of it on M T V, /{C and } I thought it was hideous. /
[1176]
Yeah. /I did too. /
[1169]
It was, - /ugh, I didn't like that either. /
[1176]
Yeah, /{C but } {D you know, } whatever became of Peter Frampton. /{E I mean, } there was nothing, - /he was a phenomenon, /{E I me-, } there was no reason for him to really come into, {D you know, } great stardom or anything. /
[1169]
I remember, I saw him in a concert, when I was, -/
[1176]
Yeah. /Yeah, /[ I think, + I think ] it, -/
[1169]
I think it was in high school. /
[1176]
Yeah, /I think that probably what did it for him was the fact that he was a good stage performer. /
[1169]
Uh-huh. /He was very good. /I remember I saw him in a huge stadium in, {F uh, } Philadelphia. /It was in J F K Stadium, if I can remember. /
[1176]
{F Oh } man. /
[1169]
Hundreds of thousands of people is what it seemed like. /
[1176]
Yeah. /[ I've, + I ] graduated back in seventy-nine, /{C so, } -/
[1169]
{F Um, } {F um. } Uh-huh. /
[1176]
[ {C but, } + {C but } ] I've really, - /[ I, + I ] loved, - /{E I mean, } [ I was, + I was ] really into the album oriented music, even then, /
[1169]
Uh-huh. /
[1176]
{C so } I was really familiar [ with a lot, + with a lot ] [ of, + of ] the A O R type music. /{F Um, } the album oriented like [ the, + ] {F uh, } James Taylor,
[1169]
{F Oh, } yeah. /
[1176]
and, [ the, + {F uh, } the ] Beatles, /{C and } {D you know, } {E I mean, } a lot of people they go, they're better than the Beatles, /{C and } I'm like, {D you know, }
[1169]
[1176]
you don't know what you're talking about. /
[1169]
No
[1176]
{E I mean, } the comparison made between New Kids On The Block with the Beatles
[1169]
You can only laugh
[1176]
Yeah, /you just sort of, - /{D you know, } {D well } I guess I can just humor them, {D you know }
[1169]
Right /
[1176]
Yeah, /{C but } {D well, } {D you know, } [ [ I, + I, ] + I've ] liked a lot of the new music. /I think, {F um, }
[1169]
Uh-huh. /
[1176]
{F um, } when - /I saw some promise, {D you know, } [ with, + with ] a lot of the new wave, [ when it, + when it ] came out, {F uh, }
[1169]
Yeah. /
[1176]
back in the mid and early eighties. /{C And then, } {F um, } I don't know /music [ is kind of in a weird, + it's in a very weird ] position right now. /I think that, - /{E I mean, } I like, {D you know, } [ things + ] {D like } to hear, {D you know, } what they call world music. Which is, {D you know, } using all these natural forms of music /{C and, } -/
[1169]
Like Paul Simon. /Like, -/
[1176]
Yeah, /yeah, /Paul Simon. /
[1169]
Yeah. /
[1176]
{D Well, } {D you know, } really that's not world music. /{C But, } [ what, + what ] Paul Simon's doing, I think [ [ is, + is, ] + is ] great because he's, {D you know } [ [ I think, + I think ] that + ] using, {A I guess what they call it is eclectic, } {D you know. }
[1169]
Yeah. /
[1176]
drawing from a lot of different sources and making, {D you know, } a synthesis of a new type of music. {F Um, } /
[1169]
What do you mean by world music? /
[1176]
{D Well, } world music is, {F um, } - /[ a lot of the, + a lot of ] [ where they, + where they ] make music that they adapt [ [ to a, + to another kind of, ] + to another type of ] listener. /
[1169]
Uh-huh. /
[1176]
{F Uh, } for example, let's say you're taking {D like } an original Brazilian form of music [ and, + ] with a certain style, /{C and then } you try to make it a little bit more listenable for, let's say another audience, let's say a North American. /
[1169]
Uh-huh. /
[1176]
{C And, then } when they hear it, [ [ it, + it's a really, ] + it's ] another form of music, and,
[1169]
{F Um. } /
[1176]
{D you know, } sort of, {F um, } trying to draw out the best sources. /[ The, + the ] best of every type of music. /
[1169]
Right. /
[1176]
Because, {E I mean, } there are some, {E I mean, } - /[ I, + I ] li-, - /there are some, {D you know, } types of heavy metal that I really like, /[ {C but, } + {C but } ] [ I wouldn't, + I wouldn't ] say that [ I, + I ] completely like heavy metal. /
[1169]
No. /
[1176]
[ I, + I ] think, - /{D you know, } {C and } it's the same way with, - /{D you know, } world music takes the forms that have really been, {F um, } - /I guess, I - /{D you know, } [ the best example + {E or, } {D you know, } the cream of the crop, ] I guess you could say, - /[ {C and then, } + {C and then } ] taking [ those, + those ] qualities, and then applying, in the styles, [ that are really, + {F um, } that are ] extremely enjoyable, and then taking, -/
[1169]
{C So } then it becomes a kind of music [ of, + of ] its own, so to speak, /{C or, } {F uh, } -/
[1176]
Yeah, /yeah, /it becomes a kind of music of its own. /{E I mean, } when you listen to it, it's {F um, } {F uh, } - /I think that they don't use, elec-, - /some of it, - /it's, - /they use electronic and acoustic interchangeably, /
[1169]
Uh-huh. /
[1176]
{C so, } {D you know, } {D well } a lot of the stuff you hear coming from South Africa now, and from West Africa, that's considered world music, because it's not particularly using certain types of folk styles. /
[1169]
Right. /
[1176]
{C But, } [ they're, + they're ] trying to make it somewhat more modern. /[ [ I, + I, ] + I, ] - /[ a good, + another good ] example was I heard Miles Davis, /{C and } Miles Davis worked with Robbie Shoncar,
[1169]
Uh-huh. /
[1176]
if you can believe it, {E I mean, } /
[1169]
Uh-huh
[1176]
[1169]
The, - /are they trying to (( )) , -/
[1176]
I don't know. /{C But, } {F uh, } -/
[1169]
(( )) We've talked our five minutes though. /
[1176]
Yeah, /okay, /{C but, } {E I mean, } when I heard his album, I heard it and it was just incredible. /
[1169]
I've been listening to that a lot lately. /
[1176]
Yeah, /[ I, + I ] listened - /{C and, } I heard, - /{D you know, } you hear this guitar, /{C and then } you hear the muted trumpet. /I - /me, - /{C and } you never would think [ that they, + that they ] can actually play together /{C but, } -/