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[1024]

{F Uh, } my first comments on the budget. - /I would say there # has, # -/

[1155]

# What # would you start cutting f-, /what would be the first thing you'd cut? /Defense? /

[1024]

Surprisingly, no. /[ I would, + I would ] cut the prison systems and let them self-support. /

[1155]

Mean private enterprise? /

[1024]

{F Huh? } /

[1155]

Have private [ enter-, + enterprise ] do it? /

[1024]

You mean the prisons? /

[1155]

Uh-huh. /They're already talking about it. /{E I mean, } they're talking about, {F uh, } having it, {F uh, } as a, {D you know, } business. {F Uh, } [ [ to, + {F uh, } {D you know, } to, ] + so, ] [ the, + {D you know, } the ] government doesn't have to deal with it. /

[1024]

I hadn't heard that. /

[1155]

{C But, } {F uh, } yeah, /{C because } I think it's all funded, either state or federally funded /[ {C so, } +

[1024]

# Right. # /

[1155]

# {C or, } ] {F uh, } # obviously. - /[ [ {C So, } + {C but, } ] + {F uh, }

[1024]

{C But } to me # it, # -/

[1155]

# {C But } ] # {D see } [ [ they're, + they don't have enough, ] + {F uh, } {F uh, } {D you know, } [ there's, + there's ] not enough ] room in these prisons [ and that, + and that, ] {F uh, } to continue funding it. /They think they need to, maybe have, {F uh, } {D you know, } [ private, {D you know, } business, + private enterprise ] come in. /{C So, } -/

[1024]

{D Well, } {D see } the other way I'm thinking about is they should be self-supporting, like, {F uh, } the prisoners make license plates or farm or small industry inside the prisons. Anything to where they can be self-supporting within themselves. /In other words, they're in there for a purpose, /put them to work --

[1155]

Uh-huh. /

[1024]

-- rather than sitting there. /It's the same thing like the whole [ criminal, + {A I shouldn't say criminal, but } the whole police ] department of the United States. /I feel the same way. /{F Uh, } someone gets picked up for drunk driving, /he should put enough in there that goes back into paying for that policeman being out there. /

[1155]

Uh-huh. /

[1024]

{C So } it's [ self defen-, + {D you know, } self-defense ] on that point. /{F Uh, } as far as my defense budget, {F uh, } they're cutting it back now, what, twenty-five percent? /I wouldn't want to see it cut any more than that. /

[1155]

Yeah. /

[1024]

{C But } again I'd like to see something on the other end back into education. But not in the education we have today. /{C So } I'm lost on that one. /I would like to be a little more into investigating some of the other countries in the world and their educational problems. And to come up with something a little better than what we've got. /

[1155]

Uh-huh. /Yeah, /its tough [ to, + to ] say [ what, + {F uh, } {D you know, } what, ] {F uh, } - /as far as this, that good or bad or what. - /{C But, } {F uh, } I was just talking to somebody else, /{C and } all those European countries, they pay all the way through college and stuff like that. /They, - /{D so, } {F uh, } -/

[1024]

{D Well, } not so much pay. /I'm not trying to see the government put out any more. /

[1155]

No. /Yeah, /I know what you are saying. /{C But } I'm just saying that even the differences, {F uh, } is that, {D you know, } some countries pay for students to go [ to, + through ] college and etcetera. /{C But } here, [ it, + {D you know, } it's ] just up to high school. /

[1024]

Yeah. /{C But } {D see, } we don't even push the fact to the high school kids that there's other means of education out there rather than college. <> To go either as an apprentice, which [ they, + they ] do in other countries. Just doing it, which I think would bring the education back up. {D You know, } -/

[1155]

# Uh-huh. # /

[1024]

# why # not an apprentice out to [ a, + a ] company and learn from down on the bottom as a wood worker or, {D you know, } just a technician? /You can learn on the job.

[1155]

Uh-huh. /

[1024]

[ Which, + of course, {E again, } which ] [ m-, + would mean, ] {E again, } - /our education budget will go down if this is, - /in a few years, {E I mean } it's not going to be overnight. /

[1155]

Yeah. /

[1024]

{C But } that would come down. /

[1155]

I think [ the pro-, + {D you know, } that's ] one reason, {F uh, } {D you know, } we do have the education is that what it takes for these companies to bring somebody on board. {F Uh, } /they're not willing [ to, + {D you know, } to ] put [ that, + {D you know, }

[1024]

.

[1155]

the training ] for only a certain amount. /{C So, } {F uh, } it's, {D you know, } as far as the technical side. - /{C But, } {F uh, } even {D like } - /[ one, + one ] of the biggest things now is {D like } paralegals and stuff. /{E I mean } [ they, + they're ] trying to get more people into that field. /{C But } they can't just bring somebody in without even having gone to, {D you know, } school in that area before they can work, {D you know, } for a lawyer as a paralegal. /

[1024]

{E Excuse me. } I see it being done . /I know of a friend that works for my lawyer that has had no training whatsoever /{C and } she's training her. /

[1155]

Uh-huh. /{D Well, } yeah, /[ [ [ I, + I'm, ] + {D well } {D ya-, } I, ] + {D you know, } I'm ] assuming that it can be done. {F Uh, } /my perspective is that, {D you know, } I've been with a couple of big companies now. /{C And } it's like they'd, are unwilling to put the time in. /{D You know, } they want somebody, {D you know, } [ when they then, + when they ] [ bring them off, + bring them in, ] that they have something, {D you know, } a certain amount to contribute. /Obviously, [ there's, + {F uh, } {D you know, } there's ] a lot to learn, {F uh, } after that. /[ {C But, } + {C but, } ] {F uh, } that's true./[ I'm, + I'm ] sure there's a lot of, {F uh, } - /{D you know, } businesses are [ small, + {D you know, } small ] businesses that could, {F uh. } - /Let me change my channel, /I've got a cordless phone. /Let me see if that clears this up. /<> Is that better? /

[1024]

Yes. /

[1155]

Okay. /

[1024]

Wow! /

[1155]

(( )) Yeah, /it was a cordless phone, /{C and } all of a sudden we had a bad, {F uh, } frequency there or something. /{C So } we had some interference, /{C so } I changed that. /

[1024]

Yeah. /It sounded you were calling from around the world somewhere . /

[1155]

{D Anyway, } {D so, } {F uh, } -/

[1024]

# {D Well, } # -/

[1155]

# {C but, } # {F uh, } {D you know, } I think, {F uh, } [ they, + maybe they ] need to, {F uh, } help promote that more. Give incentives like, {F uh, } if they do bring somebody on, they will pay some of their costs or give tax breaks or whatever it is, {D you know, } for them to train people,

[1024]

# Uh-huh. # /

[1155]

# {D you # know, } stuff like that. Programs like that, {D you know. } /I don't know, {D you know, } what kind of options they've got. /

[1024]

{D Well, } that's something about what Germany's supposed to be doing. Something similar to that right now. /{C And, } {F uh, } they have jobs out on, {D you know, } bulletin boards so people know what is open for an apprentices in different fields. /{C But } {D see, } that again would cut some of our budget down for education but build up our education with the people. [ At people, per, + at high school level, ]

[1155]

# Uh-huh. # /

[1024]

# which # I would like to see. Rather than so many kids getting out of school. /[ They're, + they go ] on the unemployment list before we have turn around.

[1155]

Uh-huh. /

[1024]

Because they don't have any education. /I don't mean college. /{C And } I'm for college. /{C But } there's a lot of people that don't want their higher education as far as [ quote, + quote ] college is concerned. /They've had it. /

[1155]

Yeah. /I think, I just heard something the other day, /it was {D like } only, it was either sixty percent or forty percent, go to college. /{C And then } out of that percentage, only so many can get their degree. /

[1024]

Uh-huh. /

[1155]

{D So, } I thought that was interesting. /{C But, } {F uh, } {D you know, } most people I knew have gone and got their degree. /{C So, } -/

[1024]

{F Oh, } yeah. /{C But } there's a lot of them out there that haven't. /

[1155]

Yeah. /{D Well, } [ I ju-, + {D you know, } I, ]

[1024]

# That's, # /

[1155]

# {F uh, } # was basic, in a, {D you know, } [ middle, + upper middle ] class area, /{C and } yeah, /{D so } I think, {F uh, } that demographic area there, {D you know, } a lot of them do go on. /{C And } they go to college, etcetera. /

[1024]

{C Because } you can get just as far as being a journeyman, carpenter or an electrician or plumber or anything else like that. Make as much money /{C and } if they enjoy it more, they'll make a lo-, happier life for themselves. /

[1155]

Yeah. /

[1024]

Question. - /You threw that question on me about the deficit, /put it on your shoe now. /What would you do? /

[1155]

{D Well, } [ as + as ] far as [ the, + {D you know, } the ] deficit, that's a whole nother, {F uh, } my perception of the budget, {D you know, } the government. /{C And } they have so much to spend /{C and } there's not enough money to spread around. /{C But } the deficit basically is that the trade surplus between the other countries, {C and } that we have [ more money or goo-, + {D you know, } more money ] going out and too many goods coming into this country, {D you know. } / {C And, } {F uh, } {D you know, } part of that problem, I think, is still, {D you know, } {F uh, } - /{D like } Japan still does not let us compete fairly in their country. /[ {C And, } + {C and } ] obviously [ the, + the ] demand for their goods is quite high here, /{C so } they can get their goods in here. /{C And, } {F uh, } {D you know, } to start even that out we need to continue to, {D you know, } at least threaten that, {D you know, } /we're going to give them higher tariffs, etcetera to raise their prices to, {D you know, } ours. /{C But, } {F uh, } it's just that, {F uh, } they're, {F eh, } - /I think [ you're, + you're ] going to find that just because the United States, {D you know, } there is such a demand here, the market, {D you know. } - /{C And, } {F uh, } {F uh, } the [ mone-, + {D you know, } money ] being spent and the goods flow in and [ we don't sell, + {D you know, } we don't, {F uh, } sell ] products abroad as much as we bring in. /{C So, } -/

[1024]

Were you watching, - /I think, {F uh, } - /one of the news stations. {A I couldn't even tell you which one I watched. But } they had on there, where [ the, + the ] output from the United States was basically from smaller businesses rather than the larger ones are exporting. /