[1052]
About how many calls have you made on this system? /
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Dialogue: 2723-0
[1104]
{F Uh, } I've originated only [ a, + a ] few. /
[1052]
{F Oh, } okay, /yeah. /
[1104]
{C But } I've received quite a few. /
[1052]
[ I, + {F uh, } I ] only started doing it after, {F uh, } I started getting calls and said, {F oh, } heck, /that's right, /I'm supposed to make a few calls. /{C So } I started about a month ago /{C and } I, -/
[1104]
# Uh-huh. # /
[1052]
# this # is getting close to twenty here which is I think is about all, {F uh, } our little gift book goes up to, /{C but } I don't really know. /
[1104]
{F Oh, } yeah. /
[1052]
I've got about twelve tickets in the mail. /Do you have, - /you've (( )) a few? /
[1104]
Yeah, /I've been getting mine. /
[1052]
Okay, /medical - /go ahead, /[ I'm, + I'm ] medical. /That's mine. /
[1104]
{F Uh, } you pushed the record button. /We're supposed to be discussing the subject. /
[1052]
Yeah. /[ I, + I'm ] benefits. /Go ahead, you first. /
[1104]
Yeah, /{F uh, } {D well, } I'll tell you, /I've been around for quite a few years and worked for a lot of different companies, /{C and, } {F uh, } it's hard to beat any of the benefits [ that, + or salaries either,
[1052]
# Uh-huh. # /
[1104]
# that # ] we get from T I. /I'm quite pleased with it. /Course there's a few things that, {F uh, } I think I could do better if I was sitting up in the C E O's seat /{C but, } {F uh } --
[1052]
{F Oh, } yeah. /
[1104]
-- I think Jerry's doing a pretty good job as it goes. /
[1052]
The one, - /it's kind of {D like, } {F uh, } - /automobile insurance, - /the ones, {F uh, } that I think are the highest and important to me, {F uh, } I hope I never have to use them, really per se, although I've used medical a little bit -- /
[1104]
Uh-huh. /
[1052]
-- [ that, + {D well } that ] one certainly is high, /[ I, + I ] worry that it's weakening rather than strengthening /{C so } I like to reverse that trend and say I'd like to get those to strengthen, {D you know, }
[1104]
#
[1052]
# be # better and better. /
[1104]
{D Well, } -/
[1052]
Then [ [ sal-, + sal-, ] + salary ] continuance, I've never used that one. /I hope I never will, /{C but } that's kind of like an insurance thing. /I sure like that one. /
[1104]
{F Oh, } yes. /
[1052]
That's like automobile insurance. /You never want to get in an accident /{C but } it, - /you like to have it there. /
[1104]
Uh-huh. /{D Well, } {F uh, } like I say, I worked for several different companies /{C and } there's nothing to compare with, {F uh, } T I here. /
[1052]
Uh-huh. /
[1104]
{D Now } I really got caught up back in eighty-five, /I got caught up in the oil layoff
[1052]
# Right. # /
[1104]
# exploration. # /
[1052]
With T I, or somebody else? /
[1104]
No, /with T I. /
[1052]
Uh-huh. /
[1104]
{C But } I say, I wasn't connected with G S I. /
[1052]
{F Oh, } right, /yeah. /
[1104]
{C And, } I got caught up in a layoff. /
[1052]
{F Um. } /
[1104]
{D Now, } {F uh, } course you get six months, {F uh, } unemployment from the State -- /
[1052]
Yeah. /
[1104]
-- {C but, } what T I did for us [ is, + is, ] {F uh, } {A I've never heard of it before. } They fixed us up with an office with, {F uh, } telephones, access to long-distance, {F uh, } computers, a secretary to take messages for us or type, {F uh, } letters,
[1052]
# Right. # /
[1104]
# for # us. /{F Uh, } they had out of town newspapers /{C and then, } -/
[1052]
{C And } outside consultants. - /Didn't they have an outside consultant, too? /
[1104]
I beg your pardon. /
[1052]
Did they have an outside consultant, like [ a, +
[1104]
{F Uh, } yes. /They did have, {F uh, } seminars every once in a while. /
[1052]
Yeah. /
[1104]
{F Uh, } course that was not, {F uh, } restricted just to just us. /
[1052]
Right. /
[1104]
{C But } the most important thing was that, {F uh, } they had made up the difference between, {F uh, } unemployment pay and seventy-five percent of my net pay. /{C And } they then, - /T I paid me that. /
[1052]
{F Oh, } really? /
[1104]
{C So, } {F uh, } I was able to, {F uh, } not just exist. /{E I mean, } [ I, + I ] lived just as comfortably as I did before I was laid off. /
[1052]
Yeah, /they seem to be [ do-, + doing ] a good job of that. /I'm in facilities, /{C and } our organization [ built, + builds ] those facilities over in Park Central now. /
[1104]
Uh-huh. /
[1052]
{C And } I guess they've been using them for six months now. /{C And } I've known several engineers that got laid off /{C and } they said
[1104]
{D Well, } this was not a learning thing by any means. /It was just [ a, + {F uh, }
[1052]
# To have an office, - /yeah. # /
[1104]
# an ] assistance trying to find # another job. /
[1052]
Yeah. /{D Well, } he said he learned so much /{C and } how, - /[ he thought, + he thought ] he had a Ph D in how to get a job after he was,
[1104]
# Oh. # /
[1052]
# through # the whole process,
[1104]
# Uh-huh. # /
[1052]
# [ for, # + for ] several months. /He did eventually get a job. /
[1104]
{D Well, } course I went through this, {F uh, } what, about five years ago. /They may have improved it considerably. /
[1052]
Yeah, apparently. /It's very sophisticated. /{C And } I guess it may be one of the best, {F uh, } that anyone's doing. /
[1104]
{D Well, } that's one of those [ little, + {F uh, } {F uh, } little ] extras that you don't see in [ [ [ the, + {F uh, } the, ] + the, ] + the ] handbook, {D you know. } /
[1052]
Right. /You're absolutely right. /That's a good one. /
[1104]
It, -/
[1052]
What do you think about pensions? /Anything on that or, -/
[1104]
{D Well, } {D now } I have, {F uh, } {F uh, } - /I'm getting close to retirement. /
[1052]
Yeah. /
[1104]
{C And, } of course I've been looking into it but, {F uh, } since I'm only a yellow badger,
[1052]
# Uh-huh. # /
[1104]
# I # won't be getting a whole heck of a lot from T I,
[1052]
# Right. # /
[1104]
# as # far as retirement is concerned. /
[1052]
What do you think of a pension that goes from one company to the other like [ an account + {D like } a four O one account. ] /[ I, + I've ] been thinking about that for years, {F uh, } /
[1104]
I've never heard of such a thing. /
[1052]
I know. /That's what I'm saying [ that, + that ] pensions, - /{D you see, } just like [ you were, + you're ] saying, you've only got, {F uh, } so many years, /
[1104]
Uh-huh. /
[1052]
And then just add the money together like you do with a four O one account, {D you know. } /
[1104]
{F Uh, } yeah. /
[1052]
{F Uh, } it's your account, period. /It doesn't matter where you go or anything. /That's your account to roll over. /
[1104]
I, - /[ that, + that ] sounds like a hell of an idea. /I didn't know there was such a thing. /
[1052]
No, /no /there isn't. /[ I, + I'm ] saying that's the question. /What do you think could be better /{C and } I'm saying that pensions, say in the year two thousand or more when social security goes away, which it probably will, - /I think they ought to have a pension at least that you'd never lose. /{C So } you work for a company seven years, -/
[1104]
Yes, /by all means. /{D Well, } what would be the difference between that and social security? /
[1052]
{F Uh, } {D well } social security's going to go to way, I think /{C and } [ you can, + {E or } you can ] invest your own money. /You have no control over your social security. /{C And } it's not paid for by the current, /{D like } when, - /say we retire after the year two thousand, social security's paid for by the twenty-five year olds. /it's there. /
[1104]
Yeah, /yeah. /
[1052]
You don't have to depend on anybody to be putting that money in for you, {D you know. } /That's just a thought. /{E I mean, } I, -/
[1104]
# Uh-huh. # /
[1052]
# if # they say which, -/
[1104]
No, /[ I, + I ] like the idea. /
[1052]
Yeah. /
[1104]
Course, [ that's, + that's, ] [ some-, + something ] like an I R A /
[1052]
Yeah, /{C and } instead of having [ a, + a ] socialized pension, it just would be really money that you and your company, - /maybe you had to put some money in it, too, /I don't really know. /{C But } [ I, +
[1104]
# Uh-huh. # /
[1052]
# I ] # can see where they'd need to do something on that because the statistics are, - /you don't work for a company twenty years through no fault of your own, {D you know. } /You work for five, six, seven, /{C and } [ y-, + y-, ] - /a lot of people I know, guys, -/
[1104]
Yeah, /[ that, + that's ] what I've done. /[ I, + I've ] bounced around. /About every ten years,
[1052]
# Yeah. # /
[1104]
# I # change. /
[1052]
I have, too, /{C but } [ not, + not ] quite that often - /{C but, } {F uh, } yeah, /[ I've only got, + {F uh, } I've got, ] I guess fourteen now here at T I, /{C and } I hope to make twenty-five which - /say if something happened to me, /{E I mean, } {D you know, } they lay me off, /{C so, } you have a pension /{C but } then you'd have to try to get a pension in another one. /It would be nice if they could get them together. /
[1104]
Uh-huh. /
[1052]
I do worry about medical, though. /Again, knock wood that, {F uh, } I haven't used it. /I guess you, - /I'm sorry, /you really do use it throughout the year, because you get your teeth fixed and all that, /{E I mean, } I, - /{C but } I'm not, - /I'm talking about major items /I haven't used it for anything major. /
[1104]
Uh-huh. /
[1052]
I'm glad it's there, though. /
[1104]
{D Well, } knock wood, /I haven't used mine for anything major. Just doctor visits /{C and, } {D well, } [ I, + I ] have [ the, + {F uh, } the ] H O M A. /I use H O M A. /
[1052]
Yeah. /
[1104]
{C And } I like that, {F uh, } a lot better than AETNA /
[1052]
I have the regular. /[ I, + again, I ] just, - /I haven't, - /I can't complain about it because I haven't used it /{C and } every time I needed [ [ it, + it, ] + it, ] it's, {F uh, } {D you know, }
[1104]
# Uh-huh. # /
[1052]
# fallen # right in line for [ the, + the, ] minor things /I guess I'm the one just supporting most of the others. /
[1104]
{D Well, } doesn't it work, you don't see, {F uh, } {F uh, } anything until you spend the minimum? /
[1052]
{F Uh, } /
[1104]
Don't you have to spend the minimum of two, three hundred? /
[1052]
yeah, /yeah, /I think it's two seventy-five for a family /{C but } the dental is right away,
[1104]
# Yeah. # /
[1052]
# if # you, - /exams. {F Uh, } -/
[1104]
{D Well } {D now, } I have the same dental you have. /
[1052]
Okay. /Yeah, /the medical you have to have a deductible. /
[1104]
Uh-huh. /{D Now, } {D see } I don't have a deductible. /
[1052]
Yeah, /right. /
[1104]
I pay a straight five dollars for anything, a doctor visit or drugs
[1052]
{D Well, } drugs are okay, /{D now, } I'm on that, {F uh, } plan, where I take blood pressure medicine. /If you take an allergy medicine, [ so, + ] anything you need a prescription for, for more than six months, you get it for, used to be six bucks, /they just raised it to twelve. /
[1104]
{F Oh, } that one I haven't heard about. /
[1052]
Yeah, /[ that's a typical, + that's a typical ] one that's in there. /The forms are right in personnel. /
[1104]
Uh-huh. /
[1052]
Fact, you may be able to [ take care, + take advantage ] of that. /It's through Baxter Labs. {F Uh, } /
[1104]
Yeah, /I have high blood pressure problems myself. /
[1052]
Maybe you still can do that. /[ Do you, + do you ] buy your pills one at a time? /
[1104]
Yeah, /thirty days at a time. /
[1052]
{D Well, } [ tur-, + turn ] in your forms. /Go right to personnel. /I don't know whether you have to about an H M O. /I don't think so. /You turn, - /you get your doctor to give you a more than six months prescription /{C and, } {F uh, } they're twelve dollars, /again, they just were six, /they just raised them to twelve this year. Twelve dollars for a three months supply.
[1104]
{F Um. } /
[1052]
Or [ whatever, + whatever ] [ the, + the ] amount is, {F uh. } /I don't want to say three months, /{C but } --
[1104]
Uh-huh. /
[1052]
-- it's a lot cheaper, /allergy medicine's really, {F uh, } expensive /{C and } that blood pressure medicine is fairly expensive. /I take two. /
[1104]
Uh-huh. /
[1052]
Go right to personnel. /They got the forms in personnel /{C and } [ maybe, +
[1104]
# Yeah, /great. # /
[1052]
# maybe ] I'll # tell you [ go + ] something you didn't know about in benefits
[1104]
Yeah, /I just might do that. /
[1052]
I do it, /yeah, /{D you know, } it's a very common thing. /
[1104]
{D Well } thanks, /
[1052]
# It's through Baxter Labs, /tell, # -/
[1104]
# thanks for the tip, Jim. # /
[1052]
Yeah. /
[1104]
I shall look into it. /
[1052]
Yeah. /What else. /I'm sure we're getting close to our five minutes whatever, here. /
[1104]
Yeah /
[1052]
# What other benefits, # /
[1104]
# {F uh, } retirement. # /
[1052]
Yeah, /salary continuation. /I think that's a great one, /{C but } again a hope I never use that one. /
[1104]
Uh-huh. /
[1052]
That means you're really sick if you have to use that one. /
[1104]
What about vacation? /
[1052]
I'm satisfied with the vacation. /I don't know what else, {D you know, } /[ you say, + say you ] get another week and, - /[ I'm, + {D well, } I ] only got fourteen years /{C so } I'll get another week when I hit fifteen. /
[1104]
{F Uh, } yeah, /that's right. /
[1052]
{C So } [ that's, + that's ] fair, /{E I mean, } it's reasonable. /Four weeks is a lot, I think. /I know some people who have twenty-five years and thirty and they want more /{C but, } {F uh, } {D you know, } -/
[1104]
Uh-huh. /
[1052]
{F Uh. } /
[1104]
{D Well, } [ I'm, + {F uh, } I'm ] here, /I've got just eleven years /{C and } I don't think I'll ever see [ a, + a ] silver badge. /
[1052]
Uh-huh. /
[1104]
[ I won't, + I won't ] be around that long. /