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[UNCLEAR] Before or after ? Is it after cos I 'll a [UNCLEAR]
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Er it does n't matter it does n't matter . No it does n't matter [UNCLEAR] .
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I 'm I 'm actually I have to go back to a house . Wee boys are with the scouts so I 'll visit them in the week . Erm Oh no no .
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[UNCLEAR] through this quite quick ?
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No not too quickly . Erm I was n't [UNCLEAR] to see the
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Coronation Street finishes at half past twenty five past . So it 's just about the right time [UNCLEAR]
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Aha . Right . How 's the House sitting alright eh ? Oh better let her get away to Coronation Street . Okay . Now do you ever buy stamps though to give to other people ?
[PS2B3]
To give to other people ? No .
[PS2B2]
Mhm . No . So you 're not a giver .
[PS2B3]
Mm .
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And I think it 's safe to say you 're working .
[PS2B3]
Mhm .
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Full time .
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Mhm .
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And you are a doctor . And let me see if it 's in this list . Mm
[PS2B3]
A what ?
[PS2B2]
Doctor . Yeah . Er Do you have a stamp collection now or have you ever collected stamps ? Yes you have . Er How old were you when you started collecting stamps ?
[PS2B3]
Oh well eight
[PS2B2]
Down memory lane .
[PS2B3]
Eight .
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Eight . Why did you first start collecting stamps ? What made you begin your collection ?
[PS2B3]
Because I liked the look of them . That 's it .
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Right .
[PS2B3]
I liked the look of them . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Any other reason for
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] No ?
[PS2B2]
No .
[PS2B3]
No .
[PS2B2]
Right . Could you have a look at this little card , the first of many I have to say . Still thinking of when you first started collecting , which of these types of stamps and other items were in your stamp collection ?
[PS2B3]
Er eight .
[PS2B2]
Or are in your stamp collection .
[PS2B3]
Eight .
[PS2B2]
Number eight , aha . Would you like to read it out ?
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Er would you like to read out what
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] number ten .
[PS2B2]
number eight says ?
[PS2B3]
The very first time was
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B3]
A column of commonwealth stamps .
[PS2B2]
Right . Which is number eight fine . Any others ?
[PS2B3]
My first collection [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Mhm . First started collecting which of these types of stamps were you interested in [UNCLEAR] . Now they do n't tell me what to say ? Er do these stamps and other items form part of a current collection that you still have today ?
[PS2B3]
Yes .
[PS2B2]
Right . Since you first started collecting stamps , has there been any definite period when you lost interest in stamp collecting
[PS2B3]
Yes .
[PS2B2]
That then came back to you [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
Why did you decide to take up stamp collecting again ?
[PS2B3]
For relaxation .
[PS2B2]
Mhm . Any other reasons that brought you back to your hobby ?
[PS2B3]
No . No .
[PS2B2]
Er can I check again whether you have a collection now which you have bought stamps for or items for during the past twelve months ?
[PS2B3]
Yes .
[PS2B2]
What are your main reasons for keeping a stamp collection these days ? A main reason .
[PS2B3]
Main reason .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B3]
Er for recreation , relaxation .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B3]
Of course there 's no wonder .
[PS2B2]
Are there any other reasons occurs to you which explain why you keep them ? I mean there does n't have top be and
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] the other would be , something to do .
[PS2B2]
Something to do .
[PS2B3]
A hobby .
[PS2B2]
Right . Do you think your collection will increase in value by more than the rate of inflation in the foreseeable future ?
[PS2B3]
Er
[PS2B2]
Good question .
[PS2B3]
Mm . Oh gee whiz . Er yeah , I think it probably will .
[PS2B2]
Okay . Different collectors collect stamps for different reason reasons , do you do any of these statements give you a good description of why why you collect ?
[PS2B3]
Two .
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B3]
I occasionally buy an item to add to my own stamp collection but I 'm not committed to keeping it complete .
[PS2B2]
Do you think you 're going to be heard ?
[PS2B3]
Yes .
[PS2B2]
Oh is it quite sensitive is it ?
[PS2B3]
Very .
[PS2B2]
Right [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
You see , sometimes you turn these over , it puts ideas into your head , you see you 're not supposed to see the next card [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B3]
Oh I see . Aye right . Right .
[PS2B2]
The idea of that er [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Adult photographs . Please now think about the sort of stamps and other philatelic products you collect yourself . This photo shows examples of ten sorts of British and foreign stamps and related products . Which do you collect these days ? Oh this is [UNCLEAR] to do .
[PS2B3]
It is .
[PS2B2]
Right . Oh no this thing here . [UNCLEAR] . Right . What do you collect these days ?
[PS2B3]
One .
[PS2B2]
Right .
[PS2B3]
Number one , British definitives .
[PS2B2]
Right .
[PS2B3]
And number six , foreign definitives .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B3]
That 's it .
[PS2B2]
right . And how committed are you to British definitive stamps ? Do you collect a wide range of them , some of them , or just a few of them ?
[PS2B3]
Er I 'd say a wide range .
[PS2B2]
Okay . And What types of British definitive stamps do you collect these days ? Er the current issues in mint condition , current issues in used condition or back issues ?
[PS2B3]
Current used .
[PS2B2]
And from the cards , Er can you tell me roughly how much you have spent on British definitives in the last year if anything ? And it 's which of the expenditure bands would you be in ? Not the amount , just the number along side there .
[PS2B3]
Number four .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] zero , four . Right . Now fo form definitive stamps . How committed are you to form definitives ? Do you collect a wide range of them , some of them or just a few of them ?
[PS2B3]
Few .
[PS2B2]
And the types of i current issues in mint condition , current issues in used condition
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] Current used .
[PS2B2]
Right and again , How much would you spend on them in a year ?
[PS2B3]
Probably five .
[PS2B2]
Five .
[PS2B3]
Right , Some people collect stamps from a particular part of the sheet from which the stamps are taken . Do you collect stamps in this way ?
[PS2B2]
Yes . Er they 're talking about things I had n't heard of . Gutter pairs , blocks , cylinder blocks , traffic lights ,
[PS2B3]
Yes block , [UNCLEAR] blocks .
[PS2B2]
O sheets .
[PS2B3]
Mm . No . No . I collect anything .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
I do n't restrict myself at all .
[PS2B2]
Which if any of the types of stamp books and other stamps Sorry other stamp related products listed , do you collect yourself nowadays ?
[PS2B3]
Oh . None of those .
[PS2B2]
None at all ?
[PS2B3]
None of those .
[PS2B2]
Right . [UNCLEAR] Apart from the stamps and products you collect , do you ever buy any of the publications and other things to do with stamp collecting on card seven ?
[PS2B3]
Mhm . Yeah .
[PS2B2]
Right which ?
[PS2B3]
Erm twelve first then
[PS2B2]
You 'd want
[PS2B3]
about
[PS2B2]
No no it 's which of er
[PS2B3]
Which ones
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B3]
The magazines .
[PS2B2]
Which do you buy ? Aha . Magazines .
[PS2B3]
Number one , A one .
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Right number one .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] that 's it [UNCLEAR]
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Right thank you .
[PS2B3]
C five .
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Stamp albums .
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Aha . And D seven .
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Right [UNCLEAR] now okay .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
And again , from the card ,
[PS2B3]
This one ?
[PS2B2]
Er aha . In a year , how much have you spent on philatelic magazines ?
[PS2B3]
On magazines
[PS2B2]
Aha well
[PS2B3]
Probably [UNCLEAR] times a year [UNCLEAR] about six pounds .
[PS2B2]
What band is that [UNCLEAR] ?
[PS2B3]
That 's er two .
[PS2B2]
And on tweezer [UNCLEAR] , magnifying glasses , [UNCLEAR] accessories and stamp albums .
[PS2B3]
Yes it says it 's on stamp albums .
[PS2B2]
The total ?
[PS2B3]
The total er [UNCLEAR] four .
[PS2B2]
Right . Do you collect stamps which follow particular themes or areas , or do you collect all sorts of subjects ?
[PS2B3]
All sorts of subjects .
[PS2B2]
Okay . [UNCLEAR] Which of the statements on card nine , best describe how you organize you s own stamp collection ?
[PS2B3]
Number two .
[PS2B2]
Okay .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Can you remind me whether you ever buy stamps or any other stamp related products to give to another collector as a gift did you say ?
[PS2B3]
No .
[PS2B2]
Right . That 's very good . That saves some questions . I 'd now like to talk about places where stamps can be bought , whether for your own collection or to give as gifts . Firstly have you heard of the British Philatelic Bureau ?
[PS2B3]
Yes .
[PS2B2]
Please now think of the different places you have bought any stamps and related products , either for your own collection or as gifts for collectors . Firstly , which of the sources on card fourteen , erm have you ever used to but such stamps and products ? [UNCLEAR] at any time ever ?
[PS2B3]
Er [UNCLEAR] . Post Office . Main counter and at the philatelic counter as well .
[PS2B2]
Right . Any place else ?
[PS2B3]
Er single purchases in the B P B in Edinburgh .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B3]
Number eight .
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Right .
[PS2B3]
Purchased at particular shops . Other associates , oh yes . Oxfam .
[PS2B2]
Right . And which have you used during the last year ?
[PS2B3]
Er The main counter ,
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B3]
the dealer number eight ,
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B3]
and Oxfam .
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Right . On the card , how often have you used or received items from the main counter during the last year , choosing from fifteen ?
[PS2B3]
Less often .
[PS2B2]
Right . And at the main counter , er of the total amount you 've spent in the last year , both on your own stamp collection and on gifts to other collectors , which you do n't do , how much have you spent at the main counter ? Er
[PS2B3]
Between Do I have to use this again ?
[PS2B2]
Er No it 's not . It 's Of the total amount you 've spent in the last year , both on your own [UNCLEAR] , how much have you spent at the main It does n't ask you how much you spent anywhere . Mm . Do n't [UNCLEAR] quite understand that .
[PS2B3]
Do n't understand at all .
[PS2B2]
No . No the answer to the question is almost er all or most of the total , about half , or less than half the total .
[PS2B3]
A half of which total ?
[PS2B2]
I do n't know . Exactly . And I did n't have any bother with this the other night . Maybe it 's me who 's who 's [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Oh the total amount you have spent in the last year . They must mean , on stamps .
[PS2B3]
Right .
[PS2B2]
How much of the total amount that you have spent , was spent at the main counter ? Was it almost er All or or most of the total amount you spent in the last year , about half or less than half the total ? That 's the meaning , it 's what you spent on stamps in the last year .
[PS2B3]
Er a what the total [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Aha . How much of the total was spent at the main counter .
[PS2B3]
How much [UNCLEAR] spent at the main counter ?
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B3]
Er
[PS2B2]
All or most of the total , or the half of less than half the total amount you spent ?
[PS2B3]
About about one twenty .
[PS2B2]
No , what what the meaning of If you can think of how much you spent ,
[PS2B3]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
what proportion of what you 've spent Aha . Has been spent
[PS2B3]
Oh what proportion of that ? Erm
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at the main counter . All or most of the total , about half or less than half the to
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Less .
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Less than half .
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Less than half .
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Right . Er
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[UNCLEAR] sorry I 'm
[PS2B2]
No it 's okay No it 's
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] confused it 's
[PS2B2]
Aye . Erm and at the B P B in Edinburgh on single purchases . How much ?
[PS2B3]
Again , less , the same proportion . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Less than half ?
[PS2B3]
Less than half . Yes .
[PS2B2]
Sorry I should also have asked er from from the card . Er about philatelic collections and counter . Er how often have you used that in the last year ? You do n't use that now ? [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] do n't use it . [UNCLEAR] B P B
[PS2B2]
Purchases at a shop now . Er how much of the money you 've spent , what proportion , all , most of the total , about half or less than half the total have you spent at a shop .
[PS2B3]
About about half .
[PS2B2]
Right . And at Oxfam ?
[PS2B3]
Oxfam .
[PS2B2]
The amount ?
[PS2B3]
Only about half again . Yeah [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Er If you could think about your experience of buying stamps of buying stamps and other items , to collect from the main counter of your Post Office . Using card sixteen , how much difficulty if any do you have in finding the items you want to buy from the main Post Office ?
[PS2B3]
Mm . Never have any problem .
[PS2B2]
Never ?
[PS2B3]
Never . No .
[PS2B2]
And at the philatelic counter ? Have you ever had any problems ?
[PS2B3]
No .
[PS2B2]
Never ?
[PS2B3]
Not had any problems .
[PS2B2]
And single purchases from the B P B.
[PS2B3]
No no problem really . It was quite straight forward .
[PS2B2]
Okay . And eighteen . [UNCLEAR] tape sorry . [UNCLEAR] . Right , During the past twelve months , have you ever bought any first day covers for new British issues either for yourself or other collectors ?
[PS2B3]
No .
[PS2B2]
Now I 'd like to discuss stamps more generally .
[PS2B3]
[PS2B2]
The Royal Mail produces about nine British special stamp issues a year . Do you think that this is too many special issues , too few
[PS2B3]
Yes .
[PS2B2]
or about the right number ?
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] too many .
[PS2B2]
And why do you think there are too many ?
[PS2B3]
Er
[PS2B2]
What are your reasons for saying there are too many ?
[PS2B3]
Probably because the value of the stamps will not hold as you know , time goes on . A lot of the special issues
[PS2B2]
Devalues stamps .
[PS2B3]
Yeah .
[PS2B2]
You 've obviously been told
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
that before hen they 've got at you [UNCLEAR] . Erm Thinking now of all the different British philatelic and stamp related products that are currently on offer , how would you normally get to hear about them ?
[PS2B3]
Er How would I get to hear about them ?
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B3]
I tend to get to hear about them from seeing [UNCLEAR] the Post Office .
[PS2B2]
Right . Mm Post Office . Post Office counter . Right , there 's a list of all the other ways , in which you can get to hear of them . Er any of these [UNCLEAR] get to hear ,
[PS2B3]
Magazines .
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B3]
Post Offices .
[PS2B2]
Right .
[PS2B3]
That 's it .
[PS2B2]
Right . Okay .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] .
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There was er [UNCLEAR] she said , Blue Peter , and they should have put it in because they 've got it in for the kids . It 's true , Blue Peter are always telling you there 's a new issue coming out . Er
[PS2B3]
[PS2B2]
E here have you seen or heard any advertising for British special stamp issues ?
[PS2B3]
In in philatelic magazines . Er special advertising ? [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
No it is n't no no It 's not special but it 's just Where have you see or heard any advertising for British special stamp issues ?
[PS2B3]
There there was some on television .
[PS2B2]
Right .
[PS2B3]
And the stamp magazines and at the Post Office itself .
[PS2B2]
Right . And Have you seen or heard British special stamp issues , being advertised through any other sources shown on this card ?
[PS2B3]
That 's have we covered number eight ? Posters in Post Offices ?
[PS2B2]
Number eight ? Aha well that 's I put that down already
[PS2B3]
Yeah .
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for a a spontaneous answer to that . Any others ?
[PS2B3]
No .
[PS2B2]
No . Now Would you say that seeing the T V adverts for special issues has made you a lot more likely to buy them ,
[PS2B3]
No .
[PS2B2]
made you a little more likely to buy or
[PS2B3]
No .
[PS2B2]
made no difference ?
[PS2B3]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
Right . And Have you seen or heard other articles or features about British special issues in any of the sources shown ? Sorry wrong card .
[PS2B3]
No . None there .
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B3]
Oh Blue Peter 's on this .
[PS2B2]
Oh so it is . And have you seen anything
[PS2B3]
I do n't see Blue Peter [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Alright so you tend to be at work . Aha . I used to enjoy it when Alistair was a wee boy but you grow out of it
[PS2B3]
That 's right .
[PS2B2]
you get away from it .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B3]
Erm Well not really no .
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No . Right . That 's fine . Okay .
[PS2B3]
Not [UNCLEAR] those .
[PS2B2]
Have you seen any special stamp issues produced by other countries ?
[PS2B3]
Yes .
[PS2B2]
How do you think the British special stamp er program compares to that of other similar programs from other countries ? Is it better , worse or about the same ?
[PS2B3]
I think it 's slightly better quality . Better .
[PS2B2]
British is better . On this card . What is the main way in which British special issue stamps are better ?
[PS2B3]
The designs are better .
[PS2B2]
Right .
[PS2B3]
Well which which there would
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It 's design that 's number three .
[PS2B3]
The designs are generally better , right . In what other ways are they better ?
[PS2B2]
Number nine .
[PS2B3]
Better quality printing .
[PS2B2]
The quality .
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Right . Is that it ?
[PS2B2]
That 's [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B3]
Fine . Which of these magazines if any , connected to stamp collecting and philately in general , do you know of ?
[PS2B2]
Do I know if ?
[PS2B3]
Yes know of .
[PS2B2]
Well two three four .
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Right . And Which magazines do you ever read ?
[PS2B2]
Three .
[PS2B3]
And Do you read all all or most issues of Stamp Magazine ?
[PS2B2]
No .
[PS2B3]
Right . No code for [UNCLEAR] . Have you ever of heard of the Stamp Bug Club ?
[PS2B2]
No .
[PS2B3]
This is a young collectors club run by Royal Mail .
[PS2B2]
Mm . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B3]
Er If you 're a member you get a pack of information , an annual special issue calendar and albums . Every two months you also receive Stamp Bug News , a topical magazine for club members . It costs three pounds to join for two years , or five pounds to join for five years . Does the idea of joining the Stamp Bug Club , interest you a lot , interest you a little or not really interest you at all ?
[PS2B2]
Not at all .
[PS2B3]
Not at all .
[PS2B2]
Why are you not interested ?
[PS2B3]
I 'm not interested because it does n't fit does n't cover the type of collecting I do .
[PS2B2]
Okay .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Afraid not .
[PS2B3]
[PS2B2]
Er Do you belong to any other clubs or British associations to do with stamp collecting ?
[PS2B3]
No . Not now .
[PS2B2]
Right . Which of the other items on this list if any , have you collected in the last year ?
[PS2B3]
Nine ,
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Aha .
[PS2B3]
Thirteen ,
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Aha . That it ? Just the last year .
[PS2B3]
Old when they say old antiquarian books
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And maps .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] quite what they mean by old antiquarian ?
[PS2B2]
I do n't know . No idea .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Okay . Back to card [UNCLEAR] Using card [UNCLEAR] , tell me how you have spent in total during the last twelve months on your collection of models , toys , cars , trains , boats etcetera . Again it 's just a band .
[PS2B3]
Zero zero .
[PS2B2]
Right . And old phonographic records ?
[PS2B3]
Two .
[PS2B2]
Right . So you 've got something in common with Gordon [ANONYMIZATION] after all . He collects records .
[PS2B3]
Well I do n't actively collect them , I just have them around .
[PS2B2]
He must have a c a collection of thousands thousands of records .
[PS2B3]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
To me it 's a very boring hobby because you ca n't listen to them , what can you do with them ? Thousands and thousands of records . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] stamps .
[PS2B2]
I mean w with stamps at least you can look at them and you know go over them
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
and and aye but
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
I 'm now going to read out a number of interests . For each one I 'd like you to tell me how interested you are in it by choosing an answer from card twenty four . Collecting stamps ? How
[PS2B3]
Fairly interested .
[PS2B2]
Okay . Home computing ?
[PS2B3]
Not interested .
[PS2B2]
Not at all . Fashion and clothes ?
[PS2B3]
Not interested .
[PS2B2]
Watching sport ?
[PS2B3]
Not interested .
[PS2B2]
Participating in sport ?
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[PS2B3]
Not interested .
[PS2B2]
Not not at all . Photography ?
[PS2B3]
Vaguely interested .
[PS2B2]
Books ?
[PS2B3]
Very interested . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Oh good good good . Erm card or board games ?
[PS2B3]
No . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Crosswords or crossword pu Puzzles or crosswords ?
[PS2B3]
No .
[PS2B2]
Not at all . Wines ?
[PS2B3]
Mm er mm . Not very .
[PS2B2]
Not very . Cookery ?
[PS2B3]
Very interested .
[PS2B2]
Do it yourself ?
[PS2B3]
Fairly interested .
[PS2B2]
And gardening .
[PS2B3]
You need the truth do n't know [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Och yes .
[PS2B3]
Not very .
[PS2B2]
Not very .
[PS2B3]
Okay .
[PS2B2]
Not when you you 've got It 's different when you have the time though . It 's a a dif different thing altogether when you 've got time to do that really . Then you can do it when you like .
[PS2B3]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
When you 're working and you 're busy and you 've got to do it I mean like this last week because of playing golf mainly , and putting weedkiller down , the grass is this high and
[PS2B3]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
just have n't the time to do it . And when I have
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
the time it 's been wet .
[PS2B3]
You must have noticed our grass at the front on your way in then .
[PS2B2]
I did n't notice No I did n't . No honestly I did n't .
[PS2B3]
It 's a nice green colour .
[PS2B2]
Yes well there you go .
[PS2B3]
A nice green colour just about four inches long . [UNCLEAR] more in places .
[PS2B2]
Aye well mine must be . Er Have you passed on your interest in stamps to children or grandchildren ?
[PS2B3]
No . Oh
[PS2B2]
Oh . Or encouraged
[PS2B3]
No .
[PS2B2]
any other children to start a stamp collection ?
[PS2B3]
Not not not children .
[PS2B2]
There 's a medical condition that I have , I ca n't see dust either .
[PS2B4]
Oh what a relief there 's somebody like me .
[PS2B2]
Er
[PS2B3]
Partial-sightedness [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
You have n't passed it on to any children at all ?
[PS2B3]
Not not to children but to several adults .
[PS2B2]
But it 's no children .
[PS2B3]
No children no .
[PS2B2]
Er
[G5JPSUNK]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
In which ways do you think Royal Mail could encourage more children to get involved in stamp collecting ? No prompting please .
[PS2B4]
Do you like milk ?
[PS2B2]
No thanks Jean , just as it comes . You can speak you know .
[PS2B3]
Yes you can join in the conversation .
[PS2B2]
Course you can .
[PS2B3]
Yeah . They wo n't they wo n't hear .
[PS2B4]
They will hear .
[PS2B3]
They wo n't [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Are you suggesting that Jean has nothing interesting to say ?
[PS2B3]
No I 'm [UNCLEAR] the tape recorder the tape recorder wo n't hear a thing she says .
[PS2B2]
Oh right .
[PS2B3]
Even if she does shout at me .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] the tape recorder might discover new words .
[G5JPSUNK]
[PS2B2]
Oh I very much doubt that Jean .
[PS2B3]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Okay , how do you think the Royal Mail could encourage mor children to get involved ?
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Thank you Jean .
[PS2B4]
He can 's think of any way that does n't involve
[PS2B3]
I honestly ca n't think of er any way that they could do that .
[PS2B2]
Right .
[PS2B3]
It 's it 's a thing [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
or not
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Usually they get a teacher at school , that 's what gets them started .
[PS2B3]
Yeah .
[PS2B2]
If you could please now think of all the products available to stamp collectors . Which of these items do you think have been produced by Royal Mail mainly for collectors collectors rather than for the public at large ?
[PS2B3]
One
[PS2B2]
The [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B3]
Mm . four , five ,
[PS2B2]
Presentation packs , first day covers ,
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Yearly prestige stamp books .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] Year book .
[PS2B2]
Yeah .
[PS2B3]
All the issues [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Can you think of any other products or services connected with stamp collecting , which you feel should be introduced by Royal Mail ? Margaret [ANONYMIZATION] did a good piece of work today .
[PS2B4]
What did she do ?
[PS2B2]
Went to the Clydesdale Bank , took two brollies
[PS2B4]
Did they phone to say
[PS2B2]
Two lots of [UNCLEAR] and
[PS2B4]
Yes .
[PS2B2]
two
[PS2B4]
They 've they left a message .
[PS2B2]
Aha and two [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
So that was very very good .
[PS2B4]
Yes the [UNCLEAR] had all
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
No . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
these things there .
[PS2B2]
That 's alright .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] somebody to pick them up .
[PS2B2]
I 'd now like your help more directly . Can you fill in this page yourself . It 's nothing fancy [UNCLEAR] You just put a wee circle around the answer you want to give to each statement .
[PS2B4]
Oh good .
[PS2B2]
Yes .
[PS2B4]
Well you can [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
I 've got a wee boy at the scouts and he should be in about half past eight . As long as I 'm not [UNCLEAR] I said , Are you sure it 's not going to be too late , cos I 'll be forty five minutes . He said , No that 's quite alright . So
[PS2B4]
Oh good , that 's good . How many have you still to get .
[PS2B2]
I 've still got plen Well er that will be two boys , a lady giver , cos you have to find people who give stamps as well as .
[PS2B4]
Oh yes . Now that 's quite difficult I would think .
[PS2B2]
And a male collector . So that 's me got four and I 've got another five to do and I had a telephone call from field controller in Edinburgh last night and I really do think I do n't know how I managed to keep my tongue still . Comments like , I suggest instead of wasting time on leads , I suggest you try knocking on doors . That is the only way you will find them . I said , Well Anne Avril and I knocked on eighty five doors on Thursday evening before we got one contact . I said i can go out and walk the streets for hours and find no one .
[PS2B4]
Right .
[PS2B2]
I says , I have to follow up leads . Yes but I 'm not interested in you following up leads , I 'm interested in nine interviews . I said , Well I think it 'll be a miracle if I get nine interviews because the quota is far too tight . I do n't understand what you mean by tight . I says , Well right
[PS2B4]
The area 's not
[PS2B2]
Right away I said , I have three people to find for working class areas who collect stamps , who are interested in stamps . I said , People generally have more to do with their money . And of course what defeated me was [UNCLEAR] knows this fellow that [ANONYMIZATION] is an ambulance driver and he 's classed as working class . And he stays in a four-bedroomed detached house . But his wife 's a school teacher and that 's why .
[PS2B4]
Yes well [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
So you 're not going to get that [UNCLEAR] like I mean that that was a one in a million shot , finding
[PS2B4]
Yes .
[PS2B2]
him .
[PS2B4]
I would say so .
[PS2B2]
And I w was telling Bill about him and as Bill said it 's a waste driving an ambulance . He d actually designs stamps and first day covers .
[PS2B4]
Does he ?
[PS2B2]
A work of art Jean . Absolute work of art . You just could n't believe what the man has done .
[PS2B3]
Mm . It shows . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] shows the people who go to the
[PS2B3]
Aha .
[PS2B4]
the church .
[PS2B3]
Yeah .
[PS2B4]
What 's her name again ?
[PS2B2]
I do n't know . She teaches in [ANONYMIZATION] .
[PS2B4]
Aye she 's she 's she does the lot .
[PS2B2]
Very nice person .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
She 's a very nice person .
[PS2B4]
just been lectured to .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Your mother was there .
[PS2B3]
It says here , I write a lot of letters to other people . Then it , How exactly ?
[PS2B2]
Well do you ?
[PS2B3]
Do they mean , I write I do n't write a lot of letters . I dictate a lot of letters to a lot of people . [UNCLEAR] Tomorrow I will sign ultimately twenty odd Do they want me to sit
[PS2B2]
Aye I think they must it must be talking about dictating as well .
[PS2B3]
down and sit writing long hand ?
[PS2B2]
No . No I think they 'll mean it 's number of stamps .
[PS2B3]
Cos I rarely ever do that .
[PS2B2]
I think it 's they look for the number of stamps used rather if it 's what you
[PS2B3]
Ah well good . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B3]
Okay .
[PS2B2]
I would say that . Even though you do n't physically write them . Even dictating them I think you should count that as writing .
[PS2B3]
Do you count that ?
[PS2B2]
I think so though .
[PS2B3]
Oh . Oh well .
[PS2B2]
I think so .
[PS2B3]
Right [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
If you want to change
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
it you just put a stroke through it .
[PS2B3]
Just put a stroke through that one .
[PS2B2]
And circle the one you you want to circle .
[PS2B3]
So I agree strongly yes .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B3]
Ah write a few letters to the hospital [UNCLEAR] forty forty .
[PS2B2]
Oh aye . They said to Bill on the telephone . I 've been knocking on doors the other night there . I went along to [ANONYMIZATION] [ANONYMIZATION] you know the council houses in there ?
[PS2B4]
Yes
[PS2B2]
Some of the answers I got . Big girl was just about to close a door and she opened a big smile and she said , Ah I just remembered my daddy collects stamps . I said , Oh great . She says , Aha , every morning , he 's a postman .
[PS2B4]
[PS2B2]
Three doors along a great big strapping lad . Er I would say a sixteen or seventeen . I said , er none of your pals collect stamps no ? And he says , None of my pals are like that .
[PS2B4]
[PS2B2]
What sort of answer Okay .
[PS2B3]
There was no answer to that .
[PS2B2]
Do you know your full postcode ?
[PS2B3]
Which one ?
[PS2B2]
Here .
[PS2B3]
Yeah .
[PS2B2]
Could you give me your full postcode please ?
[PS2B3]
[ANONYMIZATION] .
[PS2B2]
[PS2B3]
[ANONYMIZATION] .
[PS2B2]
[ANONYMIZATION] . And when you write your address down , do you quote your full postcode , always sometimes or only when asked ? If I were to ask you for your address , what would you do ?
[PS2B3]
Only when asked .
[PS2B2]
Only when asked . Right . You want to write as little as possible on them . I 'd like to end with a few more general questions about you and your leisure time . First , which of these daily newspapers do you ever read or look at ? [UNCLEAR] book there they are .
[PS2B3]
Mhm . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Yes I 'm afraid so , Bill .
[PS2B3]
I I I read the times .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
The Independent .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
The Glasgow Herald , I read that .
[PS2B2]
I like the Dependent it 's a
[PS2B4]
We buy it [UNCLEAR] wo n't buy anything else .
[PS2B3]
Yeah . That 's it .
[PS2B2]
And it is independent cos you get [UNCLEAR] news from throughout the land . And which do you regularly ? By regularly I mean at least four times a week .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
The Herald . I need to write and tell them it 's not the Glasgow Herald any more . Believe you me it 's it 's progress getting [UNCLEAR] . Er
[PS2B3]
Oh aye .
[PS2B2]
Or or getting a Scottish newspaper on the list .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Yes . If you could just turn over to the next card now Bill . Which of these Sunday papers do you ever read
[PS2B3]
Two .
[PS2B2]
or look at ? Aha . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
And [UNCLEAR] . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Er right [UNCLEAR] yes fine . And again , Which do you read regularly ? By regularly I mean att least twice a month .
[PS2B3]
Both of them .
[PS2B2]
Right . Next card please . Which if any of these magazines do you read or look at on a regular basis ? By which I mean at least one out of every two issues .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] great list of magazines [UNCLEAR] Regular basis ?
[PS2B2]
Aha , one out of every two issues . That 's pretty regular .
[PS2B3]
Have you seen the list ?
[PS2B4]
No .
[PS2B2]
Radio Times , T V Times ,
[PS2B3]
T V Times .
[PS2B2]
What 's On T V , T V Quick ,
[PS2B3]
And then and then
[PS2B2]
Women 's Weeklies You see women have been asked this as well .
[PS2B3]
Aye I know .
[PS2B2]
Er Women 's Weeklies , Women 's Monthlies and then other magazines .
[PS2B3]
Where where are the men 's magazines ?
[PS2B2]
Yeah , that 's a good question , where are they indeed ?
[PS2B3]
There is n't a man 's magazine in the whole thing .
[PS2B2]
There 's not .
[PS2B3]
Gardener 's World .
[PS2B2]
That is very strange .
[PS2B4]
You know sometimes [UNCLEAR] do n't read magazines on a regular basis .
[PS2B2]
So is none of them you read them then
[PS2B3]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
on a regular basis , Bill ? Right that 's fine .
[PS2B3]
Bella , Woman 's Weekly , [UNCLEAR] , Woman 's Own , [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Er
[PS2B3]
Chat , Mine ,
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] . I mean as far as
[PS2B3]
Good Food , Woman 's Own ,
[PS2B2]
Me . A magazine called Me .
[PS2B3]
Family Circle . [UNCLEAR] Never heard of it .
[PS2B2]
Prima , never heard of that one .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Essentials .
[PS2B4]
Yes [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
Not not on a regulars
[PS2B2]
Yeah .
[PS2B3]
Er just they have [UNCLEAR] Bella as . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Actually that 's not a bad magazine , Bella . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Er
[PS2B3]
I 've just got these pictures of the [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Where the where I used to see the Bella magazines was n't in Southern [UNCLEAR] we went with Bill 's father . And occasionally if I was looking for a magazine to buy , it would get a lot of i good information in it too . Okay if you 'd like to go to
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
the next card Bill . Are you a paid up member of any of the following organizations. ?
[PS2B3]
The A A.
[PS2B2]
The A A. Is that the only one .
[PS2B3]
That 's the only one .
[PS2B4]
You 're in the National Breakdown [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
No it 's not on the list .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] it 's er National Trust .
[PS2B3]
That 's not first . The A A , R A C , English Heritage , Overseas [UNCLEAR] Association , Conservative Party , Labour Party and the Lib Dems .
[PS2B2]
Thinking now of television and video watching . How on how many days a week do you usually watch television ? [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Every day now . Yeah .
[PS2B3]
Every day [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
And on a typical day when you watch , for how many hours do you usually watch T V ? Including videos but you [UNCLEAR] videos so it 's T V.
[PS2B3]
Two .
[PS2B2]
Right . [UNCLEAR] go to card thirty . Using this card , could you tell me how much of your T V watching time is spent watching B B C One ?
[PS2B4]
Get the news [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
About half .
[PS2B4]
Yeah .
[PS2B2]
Er B B C Two ?
[PS2B3]
The other half .
[PS2B2]
Right you do n't watch I T V or Channel Four ?
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Okay now turning to the radio . On how many days a week do you usually listen to the radio ?
[PS2B3]
Seven days .
[PS2B2]
Yeah . On a typical day when you listen , for how many hours do you listen to the radio ?
[PS2B3]
Quarter to seven till eight o'clock .
[PS2B4]
That 's all he does eight to quarter to eight [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
No .
[PS2B2]
You do n't listen in the car ?
[PS2B3]
Eight o'clock yeah .
[PS2B4]
Oh yes .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
What is the total [UNCLEAR] then ?
[PS2B3]
That 's about two and a quarter .
[PS2B2]
Er two or three Is it nearer
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
two or nearer three ?
[PS2B3]
Nearer two .
[PS2B2]
And still on card thirty . Using card thirty again , could you tell me how much of your radio listening time is spent tuned to B B C Radio One ?
[PS2B3]
None .
[PS2B2]
Radio Two ?
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] Most .
[PS2B2]
Radio Three ?
[PS2B3]
Hardly any .
[PS2B2]
Er Radio Four ?
[PS2B3]
Radio Four , none .
[PS2B2]
Classic F M ?
[PS2B3]
Less than that .
[PS2B2]
Right . Virgin Radio ?
[PS2B3]
I have n't found it yet .
[PS2B4]
[PS2B2]
I 'd forgotten about it until this came in .
[G5JPSUNK]
[PS2B2]
Er any local B B C station ?
[PS2B3]
I try not to .
[PS2B2]
Right , so hardly any .
[PS2B3]
No . Hardly any .
[PS2B2]
Any local commercial station ?
[PS2B3]
No .
[PS2B2]
Any other radio station ? What other radio station ?
[PS2B3]
Well i is n't if you 'd asked me last August when we bought the [UNCLEAR] I would have said probably Radio Brittany or Radio Rouane
[PS2B2]
Oh right .
[PS2B3]
or something like that
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
because we could n't get anything else .
[PS2B2]
Yeah . Er have you ever bought goods through the post by mail order ?
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B3]
Er no .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] I never either I 'd have said too . But I sent to [UNCLEAR] for [UNCLEAR] . So I suppose that 's mail order You know you 've got to
[PS2B3]
Oh aye . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
We never buy anything .
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
You 're probably to [UNCLEAR] . [UNCLEAR] Right .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] buy things through the post .
[PS2B2]
Right . And you 're a doctor . General Practitioner . Er and I think we 're safe to say that you 're married and
[PS2B3]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Two adults in the household . One collector ?
[PS2B3]
One collector . [UNCLEAR] I depends what you mean by collector
[PS2B4]
One sufferer . One sufferer .
[PS2B2]
Can I [UNCLEAR] twenty six .
[PS2B4]
Twenty five .
[PS2B2]
Twenty five . Oh sorry . Twenty five . Twenty five 's old enough I suppose .
[PS2B4]
I know well stupid [UNCLEAR] brat .
[PS2B2]
Still not happy in [ANONYMIZATION] .
[PS2B4]
Oh aye it 's okay . Oh did I tell you she was thinking of going to do a chiropody certificate . She phoned her careers office today , they 're sending her the information free , you 're thinking [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Yes I know . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
I did n't know that .
[PS2B2]
doing that , at [ANONYMIZATION] College .
[PS2B4]
Where 's [ANONYMIZATION] ?
[PS2B2]
Erm be far side it 's right [UNCLEAR] keep going out and out .
[PS2B4]
Oh . I mean that used to be a college in [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] I but [UNCLEAR] [UNCLEAR] colleges .
[PS2B4]
Oh right that 's .
[PS2B2]
Erm that 's probably why [UNCLEAR] get into . They 're changing places .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
Well she 's quite enjoying it .
[PS2B4]
Is it full time ?
[PS2B2]
But er Aha .
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
But as far as that er I got the information for the athletes foot and then I checked with Bill here .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
But he had n't heard of There 's another thing which Amanda suggested I try .
[PS2B4]
Another [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Er Three percent compound [UNCLEAR] . I 'm sure but no one 's ever heard of it .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
It 's a [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Exactly so . However I try it and [UNCLEAR] I went in the shop and [UNCLEAR] . I got an awful funny feeling that [UNCLEAR] shoes . Cos it 's a fungus [UNCLEAR] could it not spread from my shoes ?
[PS2B4]
Erm [UNCLEAR] your socks .
[PS2B2]
Quite .
[PS2B4]
Why do n't you get something to wipe them with or something .
[PS2B2]
I do n't know .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
No idea . So how much is the course , did she say ?
[PS2B4]
How 's she paying it is she just leaving school [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Erm well she 's she 's a grant because she 's never had a grant before .
[PS2B4]
Are they still getting grants ?
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Oh I thought they 'd stopped all these .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] . Amanda [UNCLEAR] just back from Tenerife
[PS2B4]
But [UNCLEAR] just you
[PS2B2]
on holiday . Twenty six
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
erm and she paid for the holiday , but she has an allergy . She 's got she must n't eat anything with preservatives . Well that 's
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
not easy . So somebody had told her to apply and she would get a grant , to help towards her special diet . So she applied and she got five hundred and fifty pounds .
[PS2B4]
[PS2B2]
So whether that 's an annual thing or not I do n't know .
[PS2B4]
Aha .
[PS2B2]
But it 's to help it 's cos she 's a student , and it 's to help towards a special diet .
[PS2B4]
Was she working ?
[PS2B2]
No she 's at college .
[PS2B4]
But was she working before she
[PS2B2]
Er no .
[PS2B4]
She was unemployed for how long ?
[PS2B2]
She was unemployed . They 've got most most times I think you 'll have to be unemployed for six months .
[PS2B4]
Aha .
[PS2B2]
But she had been working er er as a [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] pay for this . Mhm .
[PS2B2]
On do you know like the [ANONYMIZATION] Buses or the
[PS2B4]
Aye right .
[PS2B2]
continental equivalent and she was on them .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
Er but it was n't steady employment .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
S [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Aye . [UNCLEAR] needs to pay for it .
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B4]
I do n't know how much it 'll cost . But then if she could get set nights . [UNCLEAR] Friday night , Saturday night , then she could pay for it .
[PS2B2]
Aha . Aha . The National Health could n't train her ?
[PS2B4]
She does n't work for them [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Of course she does n't work for them now . [UNCLEAR] . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Er no .
[PS2B2]
But privately private private
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] Mhm . Aye but the Health Service [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] What a very stupid question , of course it 'll be private .
[PS2B4]
They 're taking patients in .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
So that 's how she got her contract of employment , her probationary period 's over .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
So she 's signed that [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
So I mean if she can get set nights , she wo n't get in this term anyway I presume all the places will have gone .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
But she wants to do erm oh God , reflexology , that 's just three hundred pounds . Just I mean she [UNCLEAR] . But it 's just three hundred pound .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] resolves aromatherapy and
[PS2B4]
Well you see she wants to do the whole lot er cos it 's all She said , Feet are the only part of the human body she can tolerate . In strangers . And and [UNCLEAR] folk [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] spent a lot of money on reflexology to see if it would help her sleep . She 's still not sleeping at nights .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] tried absolutely everything .
[PS2B4]
Is she alright during the day or is she absolutely haggard ?
[PS2B2]
Tired . Kn knackered . Because she 's got a stressful job .
[PS2B4]
Mm . Margaret Thatcher never slept much either .
[PS2B2]
No . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] apply for Prime Minister .
[PS2B2]
Er
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
She 's er [UNCLEAR] . She 's not [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
She 's [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
It 's really all in her mind but [UNCLEAR] . And she 's given up her one night a week in the W which [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Er [UNCLEAR] social science . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
Said that sh she has n't been eating and she
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
went under [UNCLEAR] . Erm but to get into the social work department she 'll still have to do the that that [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Mm . Och aye . I know .
[PS2B2]
Er
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Aha . But she 's another two years . [UNCLEAR] for social workers . She 's having trouble with it . Sh I think she sees a lot of women who have been [UNCLEAR] social workers . Erm a drop out centre drop in centre ? Drop centre . It 's not for drop outs , it 's for drug addicts and [UNCLEAR] Glasgow . But there 's been a few hairy things , stabbings and [UNCLEAR] it was getting a wee bit dodgy so she 's given that up . [UNCLEAR] really bad for drug addicts and
[PS2B4]
Oh right .
[PS2B2]
A sort of wild west country . [UNCLEAR] . And she 's got to look after the budget as well .
[PS2B4]
Ah . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Aye . Ronnie he 's still looking for a job [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Is he ?
[PS2B2]
It 's two months now , I think they 're starting to get a wee bit worried .
[PS2B4]
What was he doing ?
[PS2B2]
A chartered accountant .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
In the insolvency department of his office too . I mean the one department you would have thought would have been [UNCLEAR] enough .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] ?
[PS2B2]
Oh I wish . Good start . [UNCLEAR] Margaret [ANONYMIZATION] [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Any whatsit worth their salt any what do you call it What is he ? Chartered accountant worth their salt would certainly not be working for any health service or trust hospital .
[PS2B2]
Why is that Dr [UNCLEAR] Oh right . Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Erm he 'd dead against it .
[PS2B2]
I just do n't er [UNCLEAR] . She 's so sick . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Yes I got this pile of papers on the Wednesday .
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B4]
Er go and design an endoscopy suite .
[PS2B2]
You 've to design you 're making one ?
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Who said this ?
[PS2B4]
Ray [ANONYMIZATION] .
[PS2B2]
and [UNCLEAR] for your next trick , Ray .
[PS2B4]
No it was n't quite as bad as that , Ray er what do you call it had already done it [UNCLEAR] . I had to quote [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
I had to look through all the rest and take what I wanted .
[PS2B2]
Well that 's quite essential cos you you should know what 's [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Oh I see right , fair enough .
[PS2B4]
I was raging .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] papers a lot .
[PS2B4]
Aye I had to look through the whole lot of them . And get back to the designs and see what could be improved upon and what have you . Then that very night I got a phone call from this woman . This dietician saying that the architect w wants to know all about endoscop what it involves , so that it gives him an idea as to what is [UNCLEAR] about . So I thought , What are you asking me for ?
[PS2B2]
[PS2B4]
I said , If the architect wants to know , he can come and look and see for himself . I says , I only work part time you know .
[PS2B2]
[PS2B4]
She said , Oh I take it [UNCLEAR] you do n't know anything about this . I said , No , how should I ? She said , Dr [ANONYMIZATION] was supposed to speak to you about it . I said , Well he 's never mentioned it .
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
I said , [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Well you should have high regard [UNCLEAR] asking for yours .
[PS2B4]
Well it 's just [UNCLEAR] the architect She said , Well it does n't matter , if he has n't said to you . Well I said she said , [UNCLEAR] surprised . I said , Oh , I 'm not surprised , [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
[PS2B4]
I felt like saying , I 've got a bloody big pile of rubbish here that I have to go over so I 've put in for [UNCLEAR] overtime .
[PS2B2]
Why not .
[PS2B4]
I apologi I was raging . I thought , Right this could take seconds .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
If I just knew where he was prepared to stand and then could just sort of do the things round about .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
So I paged him . And he [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
How big how big is the room ?
[PS2B4]
Oh it 's big .
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
Well biggish . It 's about that width from there
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B4]
to there and oh [UNCLEAR] square sort of to here , like a four
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] Mm .
[PS2B4]
bedded bay .
[PS2B2]
Oh there 's four beds in it ? I only know about the room .
[PS2B4]
There would have been , it 's a ward . At the moment they 're redesigning
[PS2B2]
Oh I see aha .
[PS2B4]
one of the infectious diseases wards . So of course we were there , the geriatrics in there [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] Infectious disease ward ?
[PS2B4]
Aye well it 's over in that unit .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
It 's geriatrics I think [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Right .
[PS2B4]
We 've only got the one infectious diseases ward . Oh God . So I was saying , I paged him ,
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
I said Aye . I said , it 's me , I said , can you come over ? Over where ? I said , Oh guess where . I said , I 'm on [UNCLEAR] ward one or two , I do n't know which one it is .
[PS2B2]
So you you [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
So I said , are you coming over , I said , this could take minutes if I knew where exactly
[PS2B2]
So
[PS2B4]
you were going to stand .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Now
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
In casualty [UNCLEAR] day unit is to open It 's all to be opened up , they 're building a new day unit and whether the day unit has access
[PS2B2]
Why are they doing this ?
[PS2B4]
to the main building .
[G5JPSUNK]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Why are they doing it ?
[PS2B4]
Why ?
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B4]
Och i do n't know why they 're moving it down there , it 's already got a day unit on fifteen .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Och I do n't know . I do n't know what 's going on in the hospital . I do n't bother to find out . So he did n't come over . No I 'm not coming over . He said , Just think of the place as four walls . Bare walls . I said , There 's bloody windows , the whole length of one wall .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Just
[PS2B2]
So [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
forget about the windows . Forget No forget about the windows .
[PS2B2]
You ca n't forget about the windows . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Oh aye , they can be bricked up .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] no sunshine in [UNCLEAR] again .
[PS2B4]
Oh no , they 'll I suggested they leave the window ledge and just left sort of a window that deep along
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
for some light ,
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Anyway . I [UNCLEAR] was raging . Well I 'm not coming over . Just like that . I thought , you cheeky piggy .
[PS2B2]
[PS2B4]
I said , Oh well , right . and shoved the phone down . [UNCLEAR] . So I thought , Right , this is it . So I get the back of something and I scribbled , Cupboards here , cupboards here , cupboards here , cupboards here and I thought , Right I 'll see [UNCLEAR] off duty . I was supposed to be off at four , this was six so I thought , [UNCLEAR] two hours overtime .
[PS2B2]
Right , quite right cos you have to work for two [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
So that was that . So I got home [UNCLEAR] .
[G5JPSUNK]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Aha . Aha . Now i if his computer er had been up and running , erm you know I might be able to [UNCLEAR] design something . Anyway so and then of course Oh that was another thing , I said to him , No you 'll want to sit somewhere you 'll want I do n't want a desk in there , I 'm not having my desk in there . I said , Oh yes , and if you think for one minute I 'm taking [UNCLEAR] pathology forms to your room , I said , you must have had [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Is it far away ?
[PS2B4]
I said , You 'll need to have a desk in there .
[PS2B2]
Is it far away ?
[PS2B4]
Hey ?
[PS2B2]
Far away ?
[PS2B4]
His room ?
[PS2B2]
Aye .
[PS2B4]
Oh I 've no idea but it 's certainly more than that room and I 'm not [UNCLEAR] . So I said , you 'll need something [UNCLEAR] you 'll need somewhere [UNCLEAR] knees under . [UNCLEAR] . So the nest day I s As I say I slammed the phone down
[PS2B2]
Hey , he used to be your good friend [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] this Oh I was raging at him . Oh crawl crawl the next day .
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
He was supposed to go down well he did go to a meeting , but in he comes first of all . Good morning . I thought , Hmm . And then he [UNCLEAR] . But Jenny , she was in hysterics , she said , My God , I see a lot of folk get the cold shoulder , but that took a bit of beating .
[PS2B2]
[PS2B4]
Erm I 'm sorry about yesterday , but I just could n't come . I said , Oh really . [UNCLEAR] . And that [UNCLEAR] . Well maybe .
[PS2B2]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] . So I said , Here it is . No he came back he came back after he had been at the meeting . I said , [UNCLEAR] . Oh you should have done it all . I said , Indeed I have not , [UNCLEAR] the top .
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
Oh you had n't time to look at the rest . I said , Well I have n't time to look at the rest .
[PS2B2]
What 's the rest ?
[PS2B4]
All this other pile of stuff I never even looked at .
[PS2B2]
So you do n't know what 's [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
No I [UNCLEAR] this wee drawing . That was it .
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
I said , Oh thank you very much [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
I thought , Oh aye . I said , Then tell me , I said , I do n't understand these terms . What the blazes is this ? A trolley loading bay ? I said , What in heaven 's name are we having ?
[PS2B2]
A trolley loading bay ?
[PS2B4]
And then it 's got these rooms , it 's like an eight-bedded eight-trolleyed bit .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Only it 's got this separate bit for trolley loading it 's got written on it . I thought , What the hell is that ? I said , Why do n't you just knock the flaming wall down . That 's in case the roof falls in . I thought , Oh do n't tell me any more .
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
Oh and I just hope he 's remembering that I do n't want to be the sister in there .
[PS2B2]
You do n't want
[PS2B4]
Want to be the sister .
[PS2B2]
You do n't ?
[PS2B4]
No .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
I do n't want anything to do with the patients [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] . Well what what would you be then ?
[PS2B4]
Well I 'm not I 'm not being a sister in the er endoscopy room . I 'll do the scopes .
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B4]
I 'll do the bits that I 'm involved in now .
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B4]
But I 'm being I 'm not admitting the patient or anything after
[PS2B2]
Will you not lose money by doing that ?
[PS2B4]
Well I do n't care . I 'm not doing it . I do n't know anything about ward work , I do n't know anything about the forms , I do n't know anything Well obviously you get R T [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Why did n't you need this in your work .
[PS2B4]
Theatre ?
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
I have n't been in wards for about twenty two years .
[PS2B2]
Oh .
[PS2B4]
And I have I 'm completely out of touch . I do n't know anything .
[PS2B2]
Each [UNCLEAR] of course you 'd be about seventeen years [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Well .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Right .
[PS2B4]
Anyway I have n't [UNCLEAR] about any of the newfangled ideas .
[PS2B2]
Ah fair enough I did n't know about that [UNCLEAR] . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
So I 'd have no idea . The only thing I know [UNCLEAR] and [UNCLEAR] . And I 'll just take an F grade or whatever .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
An F grade . Other than that I 'm gon na do two nights . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Aye well [UNCLEAR] some of the night shift [UNCLEAR] have been done away . I am told .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Well from what Jeannette and Margaret have been saying , we think probably what 'll happen is a lot of the the girls who do just do nights , a lot of them for pin money [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
Suddenly gon na have a staff shortage .
[PS2B4]
Oh this is [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Alison gets six pound thirty odd . An hour .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Well this is nights .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
The the twelve hours twenty four hours [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Mm . Oh it is .
[PS2B4]
But she gets [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Aye . Ah well see how it goes . Because I mean this is just the start of the trust I mean , nothing 'll change next year . By next year they 'll probably issue new contracts and
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] . I mean I 'm just [UNCLEAR] anyway .
[PS2B2]
Mm mhm .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] I 'm so valuable to him . [UNCLEAR] gon na go downhill . Because he 'd the di You 're the Medical Director .
[PS2B2]
Yes I know that .
[PS2B4]
[PS2B2]
Mhm . You said that .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] since you w went on the ward that 's been [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Yeah .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] you thinking how you [UNCLEAR] used to talk to [UNCLEAR] it was great was n't it ?
[PS2B4]
Oh it 's still fine .
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
Oh we still get on fine .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
It was just I thought [UNCLEAR] what they hell do you think he 's on here ?
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Hey ? Who does he think he 's talking to ? Get this [UNCLEAR] want it tomorrow . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Yeah .
[PS2B4]
Wait a minute . I 'm not a designer , I 'm a nurse piss off . I should have said .
[PS2B2]
I 'd forgotten [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
And do you believe it , they wanted it the next day .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
I thought , Aye [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
I thought , Alright , come again . You Where was it you said he said ? [UNCLEAR] ?
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Not many houses in [UNCLEAR] I must have passed his house when I was up there [UNCLEAR] . There 's only about
[PS2B2]
They have n't got numbers .
[PS2B4]
No .
[PS2B2]
Tell me about it .
[PS2B4]
I know .
[PS2B2]
Alright . [UNCLEAR] house [UNCLEAR] was looking for . Erm Is it a big old house is it [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
No I do n't think so , I get the impression [UNCLEAR] new house . It 's a bungalow .
[PS2B2]
Is one of the new 'uns then ? Aha aye it is . Yes [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
What did I do with the car keys ?
[PS2B2]
Ten They were sitting on top of your bag outside .
[PS2B4]
Aye I know .
[PS2B2]
There were about ten [UNCLEAR] . Ten twelve new bungalows [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Well I think I do n't think it 's all that It 's not a recent bungalow by the sounds of it cos he 's had to have new plumbing
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
or [UNCLEAR] a new luxury bathroom suite [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] it gives me the idea that it 's not . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
You must have put them in your bag .
[PS2B4]
Aye likely . No I put them in my pocket .
[PS2B2]
Aye erm
[PS2B4]
Och no we got on fine .
[PS2B2]
I was very I was very surprised . I expected [UNCLEAR] to to be like a village .
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
But it 's not .
[PS2B4]
I 've never been .
[PS2B2]
It 's not . I was most surprised . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B3]
And what is it like ?
[PS2B2]
It 's one street . You come down a steep hill from [UNCLEAR] . On the left hand side is the golf course and then there was
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
two , four , six , big old houses .
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
And then on the left hand side the old houses continue and the female I interviewed er I reckoned there had been a house there that had been knocked down , and they built a wee bungalow .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
And then on the other side , that 's where the wee bungalows start .
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
And there are about ten [UNCLEAR] . They 're not big . There 's nothing I would say [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] a lo of land [UNCLEAR] ?
[PS2B2]
No .
[PS2B4]
Because the sounds of it , it 's quite a big garden he 's got .
[PS2B2]
Mm . Where where was it that anaesthetist stayed that you and [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
I mean , I do n't know erm
[PS2B2]
Maybe you went to a an afternoon cocktail party or something . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
A late lunch at Dr [ANONYMIZATION] 's . That was [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Oh [UNCLEAR] . Maybe that 's what I was thinking the big house was . [UNCLEAR] both begin with D.
[PS2B4]
Mhm . Well that 's enormous I mean , his garage
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] detached house .
[PS2B2]
Yeah . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Well straight road .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Mm no . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
It 's not the best it 's not the best of roads though .
[PS2B4]
No there 's [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Mm . Aye well . Hope it 's a happy [UNCLEAR] day tomorrow . [UNCLEAR] . [UNCLEAR] old ladies section outing on Sunday . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
before Sunday . We 're going would you believe it to [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Oh [UNCLEAR] mhm . That 's nice .
[PS2B2]
exciting stuff .
[PS2B4]
That 's alright .
[PS2B2]
I 've never been to [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
You 're jo
[PS2B2]
I have been to [UNCLEAR] . I lost my good watch last year in [UNCLEAR] . How could I forget that .
[PS2B4]
[PS2B2]
Oh whereabouts is the golf course then ?
[PS2B4]
It 's up the bank I think . You know when where it 's signposted [UNCLEAR] , I think it 's [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Oh no [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
I think
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] erm we went to [UNCLEAR] for lunch before [UNCLEAR] . Er what 's the name of the place ?
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Oh .
[PS2B2]
do n't be silly [UNCLEAR] . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Aha .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] Hotel .
[PS2B4]
Aye .
[PS2B2]
And then we went on to and parked at the start of [UNCLEAR] and walked up one side and back down the other side and that 's as much as I saw of it .
[PS2B4]
I [UNCLEAR] .
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Oh no is it a golf club possibly . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
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Er before you get to [UNCLEAR] hotels .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] in the bottom out the bottom [UNCLEAR]
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Aha . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
the other end I think they go [UNCLEAR] and round to the right .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] I thought it was on the right hand side as you went into [UNCLEAR] village . Obviously it 's not .
[PS2B4]
Och I might be wrong . Could be wrong .
[PS2B2]
The food is supposed to be good . So that 's always something .
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
East Kilbride has a lovely golf course . Nice golf house . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
And erm [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
One day we were up at Dunfermline .
[PS2B4]
Oh right .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] my hand . Pulled a muscle or something . And I could only play nine holes and I had to
[PS2B4]
Oh dear .
[PS2B2]
give up . But I knew I was going to East Kilbride [UNCLEAR] I thought , This is stupid , it 's only gon na make it worse . So I do n't know . I took two [UNCLEAR] and [UNCLEAR] on Tuesday and it 's been fine since so God knows what 's gone wrong . [UNCLEAR] . But er because of that I decided to go into Dunfermline and have a wee wander round .
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Mhm .
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[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
It 's really nice . I 've never been there before . Nice new shopping centre and Marks and Sparks and [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Oh . Oh that 's the [UNCLEAR] ?
[PS2B2]
Aye and the [UNCLEAR] .
[G5JPSUNK]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] Oh and who took the wrong road going across . And Sheila had to start [UNCLEAR] giving me direction . I said , No Sheila , I said , I know where I 'm going , it 's all right . So of course she did n't like to say . We 're two thirds of the way along I thought , Sheila , I said , I 'm heading for the wrong bridge . I 'm heading for the Forth road instead of the [UNCLEAR] bridge . I said , Well I 'm not [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
I mean [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] did n't know where we were going .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
Er cos it 's not actually Dunfermline , the golf club it 's at er [UNCLEAR] . [UNCLEAR] . You know where [UNCLEAR] is . It 's three miles out of Dunfermline as you leave the town and go towards [UNCLEAR] Bridge . Anyway it took us an hour and twenty minutes to get there , it took us forty minutes to get home . That 's the difference . Er it 's much much longer going [UNCLEAR] Bridge . Er What was I going to say ?
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
No . No . For once no .
[PS2B4]
[PS2B2]
Oh no , it does n't matter . No it was just that as I say , I went off to town . But I realized I was most surprised . [UNCLEAR] spend a day Oh aye , that 's what I was going to say , that was the first time I 've actually been through [UNCLEAR] [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Oh right . mhm . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
No [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
No [UNCLEAR] but not a lot . Then we carried on out that road . [UNCLEAR] And some person had very kindly turned round the sign for the A nine nine four or whatever it was .
[PS2B4]
Oh no .
[PS2B2]
And that 's where we went round . However we stopped and got good directions .
[PS2B4]
Mhm . Mm .
[PS2B2]
And we found it eventually and it was beautiful day too . Started off wet and I thought , Oh is this going to be miserable ?
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] it was cold certainly but the sun shone . So [UNCLEAR] phones last night but the reception was very bad .
[PS2B4]
Where is he ?
[PS2B2]
No idea . I was only hearing one word in five .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Obviously too far away .
[PS2B4]
Aha .
[PS2B2]
He 'll be using his mobile phone again . The only time that works on the long distances is if there 's high pressure . The signal must travel better [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Yeah .
[PS2B2]
In good weather . Erm [UNCLEAR] . [UNCLEAR] He went to look at the window sill and there was this [UNCLEAR] think it 's about time You did something about these [UNCLEAR] . I thought , Away you go .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
No no my conscience [UNCLEAR] . I did that washing yesterday . And I did that er [UNCLEAR] . But it 's doing all this lot [UNCLEAR] . I mean the bottom bit 's easy to do it 's fun but the cushions and that [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Oh right [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
But from a dis if I could just get a good you know one of these really warm days .
[PS2B4]
Aha .
[PS2B2]
Take them out outside and do them . It 's be no bother .
[PS2B4]
Yeah .
[PS2B2]
And you really have to see them before and after . I mean
[PS2B4]
Aha .
[PS2B2]
you ca n't really see what 's been done , but I know it 's been done . All the black corners have all been taken off . But this here , [UNCLEAR] reading newspapers and you get a lot
[PS2B4]
Mm mm mm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Oh well , [UNCLEAR] my goodness me in a carpet .
[PS2B2]
Mm . Carpet 's alright .
[PS2B4]
I know .
[PS2B2]
That carpet that that this house has been the ba best advert for that carpet ever .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] . Since I got it .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
I mean the first two the first two or three nights after [UNCLEAR] and that 's like the sleeping death because it 's it 'd been so long since I had a complete nights sleep .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Aye it 's three month short of seventeenth birthday .
[PS2B4]
Oh oh is she .
[PS2B2]
Aye Bill was talking about driver 's licence .
[PS2B4]
[PS2B2]
And all the kids all round about here seem to be quite upset by it as well . But I 'd forgotten that you know , when we were wee kids , [UNCLEAR] and you used to take them that night you know .
[PS2B4]
Oh that 's right . Of course . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
You forget about .
[PS2B4]
Aye
[PS2B2]
We tended to think of Sandy as a liability because he had been so [UNCLEAR] over the past years . Especially [UNCLEAR] married . We kept forgetting , he was n't always like that .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
You know , he used to go everywhere with us in the car .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
So you 'll be able to go to sea now . Will you not ?
[PS2B2]
No .
[PS2B4]
Why not .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Oh .
[PS2B2]
It 's a tiny little ship it 's a wee poky thing .
[PS2B4]
Oh dear . Ah . Now you 've got the chance to go you 'll have to get a decent sized boat now .
[PS2B2]
Aye . Cos I would n't worry about the cats cos I 'm sure one of our neighbours would look after them .
[PS2B4]
Och aye .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] makes it look quite big but it 's it 's not like .
[PS2B4]
Oh right , it 's one of the new
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
thingummajiggeries is it . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] You ca n't really see it . Erm
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] . Erm
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
And here is a bit with [UNCLEAR] deck .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
There 's a hole straight down into the sea .
[PS2B4]
Oh .
[PS2B2]
Where they drop the the [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Oh .
[PS2B4]
Little submarine .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] remote remote [UNCLEAR] vehicle .
[PS2B4]
I see . Okay .
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B4]
And this is a crane thing is it .
[PS2B2]
Yeah , that 's where [UNCLEAR] find the er stores and stuff under .
[PS2B4]
Oh .
[PS2B2]
She 's nice [UNCLEAR] , she 's quite good . [UNCLEAR] And well Ian [UNCLEAR] he 's into computers and things like that , I mean the technology The bridge , behind the bridge just unbelievable , I think it 's
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
got four or five computers . Er taking data from whatever .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] lot more [UNCLEAR] the the the job they have , it 's a a very long [UNCLEAR] it runs from just off the coast of er Norway right down
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
to Great Yarmouth and then across to [UNCLEAR] . So and the foods good .
[G5JPSUNK]
Oh that 's [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Tremendous .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] sticker . There there and there .
[PS2B4]
[PS2B2]
He 's inherited I believe .
[PS2B4]
Is he quite liking it ?
[PS2B2]
It 's a job , that 's all .
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
I think it 's too much of the [UNCLEAR] from the [UNCLEAR] you know the contractors . They tell them what to do .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
And sometimes he does n't like it . Needles to say
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
i if they want them to do anything [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Mhm . Mhm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Mm . [UNCLEAR] head office . Because there was no H P Sauce . All the condiments were unheard of brands . [UNCLEAR] . Er yeah , they actually [UNCLEAR] wanted Baxter 's this and Colman 's that
[PS2B4]
Oh .
[PS2B2]
and Heinz this .
[PS2B4]
Aha .
[PS2B2]
Petty .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
Really petty . [UNCLEAR] quite a lot of work in er [UNCLEAR] phone calls over the past two weeks . [UNCLEAR] operators . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] a lot of work was done .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] . He was offered a good job on a ship called the [UNCLEAR] and she 's purpose built for the North sea after
[PS2B4]
Aha .
[PS2B2]
the Alpha Piper .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
And she is [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Oh .
[PS2B2]
Oh it 's the most weird looking thing .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
And all sorts of safety equipment on it . Er fire hoses and things .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
And it would have been good because it was per The only thing was he would have had to have gone up to and do a survival course .
[PS2B4]
Oh right .
[PS2B2]
You know like taking you up high and dropping into You know .
[PS2B4]
Aha . Aha . Yes . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
But I had a funny feeling possibly he 's not wanting to do it anyway . [UNCLEAR] [UNCLEAR] does n't know it but er the lady who er in charge of personnel for [UNCLEAR] . And the [UNCLEAR] course which is a helicopter landing officer .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
It 's [UNCLEAR] . And they do n't have enough people with that so
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
you do the courses in [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] I do n't know if he 'll mind [UNCLEAR] . But the second mate 's the same , they 're all straight from navigation college and [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
No [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
Well they they 've got the theory .
[PS2B4]
Aha .
[PS2B2]
Mhm you know . Mm . I think I told you , the first [UNCLEAR] . I do n't know what this one this one 's being called . [UNCLEAR] Danish bacon . See the people who own the ship are Danish . [UNCLEAR] . And i the the lady who runs the personnel department , it 's her husband who [UNCLEAR] on the ship .
[PS2B4]
Mhm . Mhm .
[PS2B2]
Sinbad , what on earth are you wanting ? Mm ? What is it ? Is it teatime ? Is it teatime ?
[PS2B4]
Anyway I was suppose I 'd better get back . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
I took pork out at lunch
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
time .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Mm ?
[PS2B2]
Any more holidays in the offing ?
[PS2B4]
Me ? Well I 'm off on Tuesday and [UNCLEAR] . I think I am . And then I 'm off next week . Oh aye I 'm off next week Monday , Tuesday , Wednesday .
[PS2B2]
Oh give us a shout and we 'll go for lunch then .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] Oh . No I 'm not off Wednesday . I 'm off Monday , Tuesday and if we get a doctor in , I 'll do the scopes I 'll be in on Thursday . So I might just have Monday Tuesday Monday Tuesday .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
If not , then Monday Tuesday Thursday Monday Tuesday Thursday off . [UNCLEAR] And the Monday Tuesday . Monday Tuesday [UNCLEAR] six , , that 's eight days , nine
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
days ten eleven twelve , th thirteen , twelve days I might have taken this year already .
[PS2B2]
Mhm . Is this you having to take these days ?
[PS2B4]
No .
[PS2B2]
No . Is it your own choice .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
So it counts as holidays .
[PS2B4]
Well [UNCLEAR] weekdays . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Mhm . Yeah .
[PS2B4]
Cos Ray 's away . And I do n't see why I should [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
No [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] I do n't know what to do .
[PS2B2]
[PS2B4]
I just do n't
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Ah well maybe a week Tuesday , if you remember if I remember . Or
[PS2B2]
What date is it .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] Nineteen , twenty , twenty one , twenty two , twenty ninth of June .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Well I 'll phone you anyway .
[PS2B2]
Aye erm
[PS2B4]
Just in case something comes up and I 've got to go in or .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Aye I believe you . I know I should have phoned
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] all that housework to do .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] told you about erm how he 's [UNCLEAR] . Cafe dinner it was great .
[PS2B4]
Oh aye .
[PS2B2]
June the twenty ninth . Oh no .
[PS2B4]
And of course Margaret 's home again in July for a week .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Niece 's wedding .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Mind you it 's daft . Imagine paying eight hundred pounds return for a day . Mind you I suppose it breaks . I mean that 's between April and October she 's due back .
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] home for a week . Oh Nicola 's applied for her social work course .
[PS2B2]
Has she ? Mhm . Nicola that 's [UNCLEAR] Yes .
[PS2B4]
That 's her daughter . The one who 's in [UNCLEAR] working in a distillery . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
And she 's a son Alistair [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Aye , he 's building [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Mm . he was [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Mm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Aye he 's not [UNCLEAR] . Well [UNCLEAR] what they drop I d I do n't know , but you could have applied
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
for a job as what was it , [UNCLEAR] . Control room staff for the police .
[PS2B2]
Right . Mhm .
[PS2B4]
But that was too much responsibility [UNCLEAR] . Somebody 's life might depend on him getting [UNCLEAR] information . For the [UNCLEAR] giving it out to
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] information somebody might die because he 'd been too slow , or there 's been a delay in transmission , or there 's been a fault in the transmission and he 's not prepared to take that responsibility .
[PS2B2]
Mm . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
It 's very annoying .
[PS2B2]
Yeah . Is he married ?
[PS2B4]
Married and divorced he married oh less than a year .
[PS2B2]
Oh of course that 's right that 's right . Aye that 's right , [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
We were supposed to go to the wedding , my father died .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
So there 's still not any divorce through yet although Margaret Now if
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
she 's going to take him to solicitors .
[PS2B2]
That would be [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Ah but no no . I think she [UNCLEAR] . Erm och I remember she was n't I do n't know . I think [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Aye no no . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
I do n't think you can do that now anyway .
[PS2B2]
No right . Is he going to be up there sort of permanent now ?
[PS2B4]
I think he 's put in for a [UNCLEAR] . He put in for five .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] as long as it 's not Bosnia .
[PS2B4]
Oh he would apply for there .
[PS2B2]
Oh dear .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Oh aye he applied to go to the Gulf . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
they need them over here .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] before they go . Erm he put in for Cyprus I think but then everybody puts in for Cyprus .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Erm
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Or Germany .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Och I do n't know , he put in for something else .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
But I mean [UNCLEAR] he 's been up there how long ? About two years ?
[PS2B2]
Oh yeah .
[PS2B4]
But he likes it up there .
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
It 's doing this [UNCLEAR] he does n't come back here for leave , he 'd rather stay up there . [UNCLEAR] Does he go away hill walking and .
[PS2B2]
Aye [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Yeah . Mhm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
No I 've given it up , [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
we can play it now we 've got that [UNCLEAR] . Er no I have n't [UNCLEAR] Oh golfing .
[PS2B2]
Oh great .
[PS2B4]
That 's why he [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
to get golf clubs .
[PS2B2]
Knowing his luck he 'll get hit in the nose with a golf ball .
[PS2B4]
Oh God , Aye .
[PS2B2]
Break it again .
[PS2B4]
Mm . Oh and he met this girl , they went for a weekend to Aviemore .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Camping [UNCLEAR] but they ran out of money so he would n't be able to see her till payday .
[PS2B2]
[PS2B4]
So that that was I mean he just had been paid so it was
[PS2B2]
Aha .
[PS2B4]
about four weeks I do n't know whether how would that went down when he phoned her and told her [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Aye .
[G5JPSUNK]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
He 's twenty one .
[PS2B2]
Pardon ?
[PS2B4]
Twenty two in January . He 's just twenty one .
[G5JPSUNK]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Wait I think [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Ah it does n't matter it does n't matter .
[PS2B4]
Twenty two . Oh no twenty two .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[G5JPSUNK]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
And happy as ever .
[G5JPSUNK]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
How long is she in now ?
[PS2B2]
Sometime this eight , nine , ten years . And as as it goes one she gets more and more permanent [UNCLEAR] . But she 's she 's still well I think she 'd daft . She 's in at the hostel at least an hour before she starts . She likes to sit and [UNCLEAR] cup of coffee . And when the shift 's over , she sits another [UNCLEAR] . So she 's hardly in the house and she 'll be back again . You know [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Wait how long 's this stint of night duty ?
[PS2B2]
Well that was at well that was [UNCLEAR] last time it it 's normally seven or eight nights .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
On the trot . And then you get two or three days off .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
And the it 's early .
[PS2B4]
Oh that 's her back on to days [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] Yes aha .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
But she seems to be doing night shift a lot recently .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
Probably cos of staff shortages . Or somebody 's not there [UNCLEAR] . Jeannette will you fi will you take night shift for [UNCLEAR] . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
[PS2B2]
She likes being [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Well we 've got X-ray staff [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
But that is [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
I can never remember I can never remember . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Erm [UNCLEAR] four years .
[PS2B4]
Oh has she [UNCLEAR] . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] seem all that long ago
[PS2B4]
It it was
[G5JPSUNK]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
if they 're married two years . Mind you we 've got loads of staff nurses [UNCLEAR] as well and they 're not all made up to . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Aye . Ah right .
[PS2B4]
I could n't tell you what [UNCLEAR] . I 'm sure it was a almost two years . Eighteen months . She got she qualified July or August . Well she she sat her finals .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
And she started right away . On the ward .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
And that was the that would be a year [UNCLEAR] . That 'll be like four years this August . [UNCLEAR] . Very unusually for anybody to stay in that work for four years .
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
Usually [UNCLEAR] after a couple of years , [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
But Jeannette seems to think everything will be very [UNCLEAR] . [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Oh I mean if she likes it , that 's fine .
[PS2B4]
Oh she does . she does .
[PS2B2]
Well that 's okay .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR] [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Mm .
[PS2B4]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Mhm .
[PS2B4]
She 's acting up . [UNCLEAR] . You tell him , she said , Well why should I tell him ? [UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
Aye .
[PS2B4]
Apparently he 's he 's quite good tempered [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
Oh
[G5JPSUNK]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Who 's Brian ?
[PS2B2]
Jane 's son .
[PS2B4]
Oh right .
[PS2B2]
Er and she 's not [UNCLEAR] I think there 's a few [UNCLEAR] I 'm not sure . And apparently the man was a bit doolally pardon me [UNCLEAR] . So he she always to [UNCLEAR] .
[G5JPSUNK]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B2]
But they changed their mind . Once she was qualified . They thought they would go abroad .
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] So that 's gone by the wayside . [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Oh really . Mhm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B4]
Mm . Terraces ? There 's no terraces [UNCLEAR] .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR]
[PS2B4]
Mhm .
[PS2B2]
[UNCLEAR] .