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[1231]

Okay, /do you vote regular? . /

[1236]

Yeah, /

[1231]

Every one. /

[1236]

{C But, } {F uh, } that's just since, in the past say about six years. /Before that I really didn't pay any attention at all. /

[1231]

{D Well } {D see, } that's me. /I've never paid any attention to voting. /

[1236]

{F Oh, } you haven't? /

[1231]

Huh-uh. /

[1236]

Yeah. /I didn't use to, /{C but } now I really, - /{C because } I get so angry about what goes on /{C and then } I feel like I can't really complain too much, unless , -/

[1231]

Unless you have something to do with it. /

[1236]

Yeah. /

[1231]

Right. /

[1236]

{C But } the problem is, that I am very liberal politically /{C and so } I hardly ever have anybody that wins that I vote for . /

[1231]

{F Oh, } liberal, /[ by, + what do you mean by ] liberal, {F um. } /

[1236]

Liberal politically, /I'm, {D you know, } {D like } pretty left wing [ Demo-, + Democrat, ] /{C so. } -/

[1231]

{D Well } {D see, } I don't know anything about politics. /

[1236]

{F Oh, } you don't? /

[1231]

{F Uh, } [ what's the main, + what's the main ] difference between Republicans and Democrats? /

[1236]

Okay, /{D well, } there's a lot of them, {F um, } /it depends on what issue you're talking about. /{C But } Democrats [ are, + on a lot of issues are ] more liberal than Republicans, /{C and } {D well } [ it used to be, + it's ] kind of hard to say now, especially after Desert Storm, /{C but, } {F um, } I think back in the [ ei-, + times ] when, {F uh, } my political opinions were being formed {D like } [ in Viet-, + during the Vietnam ] war and stuff,

[1231]

Uh-huh. /

[1236]

the Republicans were more, {D you know, } what they called Hawks, which is more {D like } aggressive in war and more pro war,

[1231]

Uh-huh. /

[1236]

and pro aggression /{C and, } {F um, } the Democrats were the Doves, /they were more for peace. /{C And } I'm not sure how much that holds true anymore, /I think, {D you know, } the issues are, -/

[1231]

Okay, /{C and } you vote for the Democrats /{C or, } -/

[1236]

Yeah, /

[1231]

Usually. /

[1236]

yeah /{C and } Democrats usually are [ su-, + more supportive ] of public assistance programs, /

[1231]

Uh-huh. /

[1236]

[ {C and, } + {C and } ] programs to, {F um, } - /the big Republican thing is that [ they don't, + they vote ] for less government, /they want less government involvement,

[1231]

Uh-huh. /

[1236]

in society /{C and so } they're [ more, + less ] apt to vote in, {D you know, } more aid to people, /{C or } [ more, + {F uh, } they're less ] apt to vote in programs that involve the government running things. /

[1231]

{F Huh, } okay. /

[1236]

{D So, } /{D so } have you ever voted at all? /

[1231]

No, /I never have. /

[1236]

You haven't? /

[1231]

Huh-uh. /

[1236]

How old are you? /

[1231]

I'm twenty-six. /

[1236]

{F Oh, } gosh. /

[1231]

I know, [ I sho-, + I, ] -/

[1236]

{D Well. } /

[1231]

{D well, } I don't know [ mu-, + that much ] about it. /

[1236]

Uh-huh, /uh-huh. /

[1231]

I don't keep up on it /{C and } I don't feel like I [ ha-, + have ] enough knowledge on it [ to even, + {D you know, }

[1236]

Yeah. /

[1231]

to ] pick the right person. /

[1236]

Yeah, /

[1231]

{C So } that's what they need, {D well, }

[1236]

Uh-huh. /

[1231]

[ it, + {F uh, } they ] said something to improve voting. /

[1236]

Uh-huh. /

[1231]

If they could <> make it [ more, + {F oh, } easier ] to find out, {D you know, } what's going on. /Do you know what I mean? /

[1236]

Yeah, /yeah. /

[1231]

[ {D Like, } + {F uh, } {D like } ] to me, [ I don't, + I didn't ] know what would have been wrong with, - /I can't even remember who ran for president against Bush. /I think it was, {F uh, } that woman, /

[1236]

Du-, -/

[1231]

wasn't it a woman. /

[1236]

No, /it was Dukakis,

[1231]

Dukakis. /

[1236]

from Massachusetts. /

[1231]

Okay, /didn't he have a woman, /[ {C or } wasn't, + {C or } was ] that Reagan. /There was a woman that was running for vice president for a while. /

[1236]

{F Oh } yeah, /that was, -/

[1231]

Ferraro. /

[1236]

yeah /Ferraro. /That was a while ago, /that was a couple elections ago, /yeah. /

[1231]

Okay . /

[1236]

Yeah, /that's okay. /

[1231]

{D Well, } that's what I mean, /{D like } I didn't know what the difference between Dukakis and Bush was. /

[1236]

Uh-huh. /

[1231]

{D You know, } # I didn't know anything about Bush or Dukakis. # /

[1236]

# {D So } [ what do you think about, + # {F uh, } what do you think about ] what you see on T V about them, like in the news or on the ads, /do you kind of just, -/

[1231]

Okay, /I don't remember anything about Dukakis, /

[1236]

You don't? /

[1231]

{C but, } {D well } they're all saying that they're going to do, {D you know, } whatever is best for their campaign anyway. /

[1236]

Uh-huh, /uh-huh. /

[1231]

That's what I mean, /if they had some kind of public programs where you can just go out and, -/

[1236]

Uh-huh. /

[1231]

I don't know, /{D like } {D you } know, in school they didn't teach you about [ demo-, + {F uh, } the government, ]

[1236]

Right. /

[1231]

not really. /

[1236]

You didn't get any government classes? /

[1231]

Huh-uh. /

[1236]

Yeah, /it's really hard too, /{C because } before they used to have, {F um, } a lot of, - /it seems like the stuff that they put out now, it, {E I mean, } [ I, + ] doesn't just seem like it, /I know for a fact that [ the, + any ] kind of stuff that if you, wrote and asked for material, - /{D well } what do you believe in, /what do you believe in, /they don't take any stands on anything. /They kind of say, {D well } what do you want me to believe. /

[1231]

Yeah. /

[1236]

{C Or } they word it so that it's really hard to tell where they're standing on certain issues. /

[1231]

{D Well } I'm not sure they're, - /yeah. /I know how they do it. /

[1236]

Uh-huh. /

[1231]

It, - /like [ i-, + ] with the abortion issues and stuff. /

[1236]

Uh-huh. /Yeah /they have to kind of take a stand on some things, like abortion and things like that, /{C so } that's kind of, how I judge. /There's a few things where they have to say yes or no, like abortion or gun control, /{C or } let me see, /I try to look at [ what, + if ] some of the newspaper articles, or the, - /I don't trust T V as much, /{C but } newspaper articles can show [ wha-, + how ] they voted in the past /[ {C and, } +

[1231]

Right. /

[1236]

{C but } ] you get, {D you know, } - /it all depends again on who's writing it and who they're for, because they can slant that too. /

[1231]

Right, /{C and } like I said most of [ the poli-, + the politicians, ] I'm (( )) , - /also the politicians put out what makes them look good anyway. /

[1236]

Uh-huh, /yeah, /yeah. /

[1231]

{C And } everybody's got, {D you know, } stuff they don't want known. /

[1236]

Right, /everybody's got a secret . /{C So, } -/

[1231]

{D Well } anyway, I'm sorry /[ I didn't, + I didn't ] have much knowledge. /

[1236]

{D Well } that's okay. /[ Do you think, +

[1231]

I don't even remember this being on there. /

[1236]

do you think, ] {F um, } - /{E I mean, } what would it take, - /{D like, } God, this is really good actually, [ tha-, + for ] to talk to somebody who hasn't voted, /{E I mean, } what kind of, -/

[1231]

Incentive? /

[1236]

[ how would it, + [ how, + what kind of stuff ] [ would they, + would you ] ] like them to do so [ that, + that ] you would know more about it. /Like send stuff in the mail or have it at the library /{C or, } -/

[1231]

I guess that would be good, /{D now } I'm sure they've got it at the library,

[1236]

Uh-huh. /

[1231]

{D you know. } /

[1236]

Uh-huh. /

[1231]

{E I mean } if I get to the library. /I've got two babies, so, I don't, /yeah, /

[1236]

{F Oh } do you? /Yeah, /that will tie you down a little bit. /

[1231]

{C But } [ I, + # I ] don't know. # /

[1236]

# {C Or } [ do you # just not, + do you ] feel like it's not really going to make that much difference if you don't vote /{C or, } -/

[1231]

{F Oh, } I know if enough people think like that it, {D you know, } would make a difference,

[1236]

Yeah. /

[1231]

if people stopped thinking like that. /

[1236]

Yeah. /

[1231]

{F Um, } {D well } a lot of people, they'll vote the way their family votes, {D you know, } /

[1236]

Uh-huh. /Uh-huh, /yeah. /

[1231]

Then {D like } your kids or whatever will follow you and just vote Democrat, /right. /

[1236]

Uh-huh, /

[1231]

{E I mean, } -/

[1236]

{D Well, } not in my family . /

[1231]

No. /

[1236]

[ We're kind of, + we're really ] independent. /

[1231]

All split. /

[1236]

{C But } a lot of families do that. /I know a lot of wives feel like they have to vote the way that their husbands vote. /

[1231]

Right. /

[1236]

{C And } that kind of keeps from getting a lot of issues resolved . /Golly. /

[1231]

I lie. {F Huh. } /

[1236]

{C But } {D well, } -/

[1231]

I don't know, /if I did understand politics I probably would vote more, /

[1236]

Uh-huh. /

[1231]

{C But } like I said if I voted for Bush, <> - /{C or } like when, {F uh, } Gary --

[1236]

Hart? /

[1231]

-- Hart was running,

[1236]

Uh-huh. /

[1231]

a lot of women would have voted for him just because he was nicer looking, /not that I think he was good looking, /{C but, }

[1236]

Yeah. /

[1231]

he was young. /

[1236]

Yeah. /

[1231]

{C And then, } I didn't think that was right, because he may have been a good president, or whatever. /

[1236]

Uh-huh. /

[1231]

[ {C But } + {C because } ] it, - /what, - /he had an affair, /

[1236]

Yeah, /yeah. /

[1231]

{C and } it just threw him out of the whole running. /

[1236]

Yeah. /

[1231]

{C And } a lot of people go by their, {F uh, } personal life when they vote /{C and, } -/

[1236]

Uh-huh, /yeah. /

[1231]

Which I guess if you got turmoil in your personal life, you're going to let it come into work /{C but, }

[1236]

Uh-huh. /

[1231]

I'm sure there's a lot of people that have had, -/

[1236]

I think everybody does, /it just depends on how well you can hide it. /

[1231]

Yeah. /

[1236]

{D You know, } {C and } I, - /that's very true, /[ I, + I ] think that doesn't really have that much to do with, {F um, } unless they've done something really horrible, {D you know, }

[1231]

{D Well, } /

[1236]

or something real abnormal. /

[1231]

{D Well, } criminal or something like that's different, /

[1236]

Yeah, /right, /

[1231]

{C but, }

[1236]

{C but } otherwise. /

[1231]

if him and his wife weren't getting along, -/

[1236]

Uh-huh. /

[1231]

{E I mean, } [ what is, + what effect does ] that have on him running for president. /Do you know what I mean? /

[1236]

Yeah, /yeah. /

[1231]

It's all so secretive, /{D see } we really don't see [ the, +

[1236]

That's right. /

[1231]

the ] true person anyway. /

[1236]

I think [ that's, + that's ] having a big effect on how poorly that the country is being run, is that, {F um, } [ [ the, + the election, ] + the people that want to get elected ] are turning it into a popularity contest by advertising the things [ that, +

[1231]

Right. /

[1236]

{D you know, } that ] really don't have anything to do with how well they do the job. /{C But } see they're trying to find an excuse not to deal with [ what, + {D you know, } the issues that ] people really want to know about, because on those issues you have to say yes or no. /{C And } if they don't say yes or no, then maybe somebody will vote for them that wouldn't have if they had come down on the wrong side. /Do you know what I'm saying? /

[1231]

Right. /

[1236]

{C So } they just try and make it a personal thing, /{E I mean, } if you remember any of the T V commercials from the last presidential campaign, <> they all had, {F uh, } pictures of Bush [ with his grandchildren, + walking around with his grandchildren ] /{C and } even from Reagan, it [ was all just like, + looks like ] a McDonald's commercial, {D you know. } /

[1231]

Uh-huh . /

[1236]

# That's about what it looked like. # /

[1231]

# {D Well } what did you think # of Reagan as a president? /

[1236]

I just thought he was really inept. /I don't think he did anything at all. /[ He, + they ] just kind of sat him up there like a puppet /{C and } the people that were, -/

[1231]

Do you think he won from Carter because of [ the, + {F um, } the ] hostages that were held at that time? /

[1236]

{D Well } I think that was part of it, /I think there's a lot of [ thin-, + the economic problems ] that the country was having at the time and [ the, + the ] recession and stuff, /

[1231]

Uh-huh. /

[1236]

people just had a picture of Carter as not being real capable, /{C but } he, actually, - /all right, /this - /I thought he was great. /

[1231]

I thought Carter was good too, /{C and } that was, - /yeah, /

[1236]

Did you? /I always liked him, /I thought he was great at the time /{C and } [ I, + I ] just couldn't get over the fact that Reagan beat him. /[ I, + {D you know, } that I ] just couldn't believe that # he got voted out. # /

[1231]

# {C But, } I think I wasn't, # - /{D well } let's see, /that's been about ten years ago, right? /

[1236]

Uh-huh, /yeah. /

[1231]

Okay, /{D so } I was only fifteen or sixteen, /{C but } I remember Carter /{C and } I liked him. /

[1236]

You did? /Have you heard stuff about him lately, /do you know what he's doing? /

[1231]

No, /I sure don't. /