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CMV: Waffle House does not actually sell waffles, and they are only trying to deceive you.

[mollyclaire95]

While I was growing up, I had never eaten at a Waffle House, so I had grown up on Cracker Barrel, IHOP and Denny's, all respectable breakfast eateries. Now, I'm not arguing here that Waffle House sells mediocre waffles, or mediocre food in general, that's a given. I'm saying that the waffles served at Waffle House don't even qualify as waffles. Let's relive my first Waffle House experience. I've recently moved to a college town, my team just won a football game, and I go to the local WH downtown, and I'm starving. I order two chocolate chip waffles. Imagine my surprise when I get two geometrically patterned pancakes with chocolate chips on top. I was outraged. Now you may be saying, hey, they're still waffles, just not waffles to your liking. Let us look at the Merriam-Webster waffle definition. 1waf·fle \ˈwä-fəl, ˈwȯ-\ noun :a crisp cake of batter baked in a waffle iron Waffle House "waffles" fail to meet the crisp part of their definition. They are very thin, and only their checkered pattern distinguishes them from pancakes. Ladies and gentleman, a pattern of squares on baked batter does not a waffle make. True waffles are crisp on the outside and fluffy on the inside, and at least double the height of a pancake. Either Waffle House needs to change the name of the "waffles" they serve or change the recipe because innocent people are deceived daily by this social injustice. Also, I would like to eat at Waffle House, but I am only disappointed when I think about how my waffle craving will only be teased and never satisfied. CMV so I can be a cheap college students like all of my friends. Edit: OKAY! I understand now they're just undercooked. I'll order them crispy next time.

[turtlenipples]

The word "waffle" has now lost all connotation after seeing it written so many times in this thread. You're right OP, Waffle House doesn't make waffles as that is a nonsensical term void of any meaning. But those then, checkered pastries of cooked batter they sell are pretty tasty!

[ootika]

Next time you go, get a male waffle (read: with nuts). It will change your view on its own.

[Tapeleg91]

So the definition of waffle changes based on how long you cook it? I happen to enjoy my waffles slightly undercooked, does that mean that they are not waffles?

[cdb03b]

Why do you limit your waffle type to only Belgian style? That is very snobbish and just wrong. Also they do meet the dictionary definition. Why do you ignore your own definition?

[man2010]

[STA-CITE]> Now you may be saying, hey, they're still waffles, just not waffles to your liking. Let us look at the Merriam-Webster waffle definition. 1waf·fle \ˈwä-fəl, ˈwȯ-\ noun :a crisp cake of batter baked in a waffle iron [END-CITE][STA-CITE]> True waffles are crisp on the outside and fluffy on the inside, and at least double the height of a pancake. [END-CITE]Well which definition are we supposed to go by according to your view? The dictionary definition mentions nothing about waffles being fluffy on the inside or being at least double the height of a pancake, yet your definition mentions bother of these things. So, which definition of a waffle should we be going by?

[mollyclaire95]

True, the pancake height was my own personal addition for dramatic effect, but that doesn't take away from the fact that Waffle House waffles are not crisp, and therefore do not fit the definition.

[cdb03b]

Your personal opinion has no affect on a business though. They serve what meets the dictionary (and therefore societal) definition of a waffle.

[man2010]

So should I go by the dictionary definition of a waffle or your personal definition? If crispness is the sole determining factor then it seems like Waffle House may simply undercook their waffles, not that they aren't waffles at all.

[IIIBlackhartIII]

It's like asking for a gourmet meal from a McDonald's... Waffle House is more about a kind of "down south" rural cheap meal, and usually has a fairly friendly open atmosphere. And besides, everyone knows Waffle House is really all about the Hash-browns :P

[BrenMan_94]

[STA-CITE]>batter baked in a waffle iron [END-CITE]Their waffles meet half the description. [STA-CITE]>car \ noun \ˈkär: a vehicle that has four wheels and an engine and that is used for carrying passengers on roads [END-CITE]So if a car has one wheel taken off is it no longer a car? By your logic that would be the case, despite it meeting the other requirements.

[mollyclaire95]

Yes but a car with three wheels can no longer carry passengers on a road, so now its not meeting all but one of the requirements, though I can appreciate your analogy. I think that not meeting all of the requirements can definitely change the definition of an object. Take French Toast French toast noun bread coated in egg and milk and fried. If the bread is coated in milk and fried, and there is no egg, its not French Toast, it's just milky bread.

[BrenMan_94]

I see what you're saying, but I believe that a Waffle House waffle more than meets the requirement that being a waffle entails. Besides, if you want it crispy you can request to have it cooked longer. Most people would look at a Waffle House waffle and call it a waffle, despite it not technically being true according to your definition. In this case you're arguing the majority opinion vs. the status quo. It's kind of like how Oxford now defines "literally" as something *literally* other than "literally". Most people don't take that definition seriously, so why should we take this one seriously?

[James_McNulty]

[STA-CITE]>Now you may be saying, hey, they're still waffles, just not waffles to your liking. Let us look at the Merriam-Webster waffle definition. [END-CITE][STA-CITE]>1waf·fle \ˈwä-fəl, ˈwȯ-\ noun :a crisp cake of batter baked in a waffle iron [END-CITE][STA-CITE]>True waffles are crisp on the outside and fluffy on the inside, and at least double the height of a pancake. [END-CITE]Why do you rely on the Werriam-Webster definition at first, then pivot to your own definition later? Additionally, I find your definition troubling. There is no uniform pancake height. I'm sure there are pancakes which Waffle House waffles *are* double the height of. [A quick google search](https://www.google.com/search?q=pancakes&client=firefox-a&hs=B2C&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=XIZqVP3HLMusyAT9sYGQCQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1078&bih=687) shows many different heights. I think Waffle House, which has more locations than IHop, Perkins or Denny's, should have at least some say in what is or is not a waffle. Additionally, [Eggo waffles](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggo) have 73% market share of the frozen waffle market and do not meet your specifications. You can't simply dismiss the top two brands of waffles in America in favor of your own definition. Well, you can, but you can't insist that others join you. It's also completely possible that most Waffle House locations serve waffles which are indeed crisp on the outside and fluffy on the inside. You may have had an uncommonly bad experience.

[mollyclaire95]

I now understand that adding my own personal waffle preferences may have weakened my argument... NONETHELESS. Solely going on the Merriam-Webster definition, WH waffles are not crisp, they are floppy, and thats why I made the pancake analogy in the first place.

[cdb03b]

That is an argument that they are under-cooking them by your experience, not that they are not serving waffles.

[Raintee97]

Where are these throngs of people who are so deceived. I've never seen them. I mean I have eaten at a Waffle house a few times and I've never seen someone so outraged at their food. I mean if you want higher quality waffles there are probably better places you can go to. But, you will probably pay a little bit more, or they won't be open when you want them to be.

[matthedev]

I think you're thinking of Belgian waffles. I've never actually eaten at a Waffle House, but a search on Google Images brought up waffles that look a lot like those frozen Eggo waffles you can buy at grocery stores. Maybe it's time to consider a college where the dining halls have waffle irons? Mine did when I attended, for what it's worth.

[mollyclaire95]

My college campus actually has an on campus Denny's, where I ordered a waffle, ate said waffle, and then wrote this post. The waffle I ordered at Denny's wasn't specified as a "Belgian Waffle." It was just the regular waffle you ordered off the menu, and you bet it was crisp on the outside, and it was baked in a waffle iron, true waffle style.

[razorbeamz]

Waffle House bakes their waffles in waffle irons too. Maybe you went to a shitty Waffle House.

[RavenQuote]

This CMV made me laugh out loud. You say you'd like to eat in a Waffle House but your craving for waffles would be unsatisfied. That waffle eaters are being deceived. That Waffle House waffles aren't real waffles. Are you a drama major by any chance? Anyway, kidding aside, I am a Canadian who loves to visit a Waffle House when traveling to the good ol' US of A. I too like my waffle crispy on the outside. So guess what? That's how I order it. I order my waffle crispy. And that's how I get it. I still find it funny that you say The Waffle House doesn't make waffles. They're definitely waffles. *It's the name of the place - The WAFFLE House*

[mollyclaire95]

You know what, you have opened my eyes and made me think that the problem isn't Waffle House, but the problem is within myself. I will now order my waffles crispy, thanks for offering me a resolution. ∆ Also, I'm an Industrial Engineering Major, who loves waffles.

[RalphWaldoNeverson]

Fellow STEM lord. I love you sir. Please join me in my crusade for real waffles!

[mollyclaire95]

*Ma'am. And I would love to!

[RalphWaldoNeverson]

Awesome! We need more women in STEM!

[RavenQuote]

Well thanks! I hope your next waffle experience is enjoyable :-)

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[huadpe]

You're limiting waffles to just Belgian style waffles which are puffy in the middle and crisp on the outside. But there are lots of other traditional waffles that aren't thick. By far the most prominent is the [pizelle waffle](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzelle). The distinguishing factor of a waffle is being cooked in an iron on both sides at the same time, not any particular thickness.

[mollyclaire95]

I actually thought about different types of waffles, but Waffle House doesn't specify the type of waffles they serve, so that's why I went with the more general definition. If Waffle House mentioned that they served the more flimsy types of waffles, then I wouldn't be having this personal crisis.

[cdb03b]

Why should they specify. They cook an average waffle, not a specialty waffle like Belgian style.

[huadpe]

But that's like saying a restaurant doesn't serve pasta if you get ziti instead of spaghetti. While ziti isn't the most common pasta, it's absolutely a type of pasta. What waffle house serves is absolutely a waffle. If you don't like their waffles, that's fine. Lots of people don't like how a particular restaurant does a particular dish. But that's just what kind of waffle you like. Other people like their waffles the way that waffle house does them.

[BlackRobedMage]

Not specifically related to the CMV, but somewhat following you're point, Belgians actually have numerous different waffles of varying sizes and thicknesses. The one we call a Belgian Waffle is most similar to the Liege Waffle, though even that is kind of off.